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[Lordo]

words are cheap, very cheap.
if you need a private line to know what the old fart is thinking your problems are more serious than first realised my friend. that he does not give a shit is common knowledge. more common than your average karpazianobullaraghi donkey. so obviously you have not quite reached that level yet.

O theos tzi psyshi tou....=(Only) god and his soul... (know the truth)

On the other hand you must know that priests as well as imams and all those religious leaders allover the globe DO CARE for whatever keeps their lambs within their control. And they support each other, don't be surprised to see an imam supporting a priest and vice versa. The reason is, they are all in the same BUSINESS.
The business that says: after a stupid religious person dies, s/he is very likely to have made a will donating them some properties to save his/her soul.

its the only sensible thing you said to this point. so how many churches and mosques left to now.

can i bid for the contract.

I don't know. When i become president I will count both the mosques and the churches and demolish them ALL.

[Pyrpolizer]

words are cheap, very cheap.
if you need a private line to know what the old fart is thinking your problems are more serious than first realised my friend. that he does not give a shit is common knowledge. more common than your average karpazianobullaraghi donkey. so obviously you have not quite reached that level yet.

O theos tzi psyshi tou....=(Only) god and his soul... (know the truth)

On the other hand you must know that priests as well as imams and all those religious leaders allover the globe DO CARE for whatever keeps their lambs within their control. And they support each other, don't be surprised to see an imam supporting a priest and vice versa. The reason is, they are all in the same BUSINESS.
The business that says: after a stupid religious person dies, s/he is very likely to have made a will donating them some properties to save his/her soul.

its the only sensible thing you said to this point. so how many churches and mosques left to now.

I don't know. When i become president I will count both the mosques and the churches and demolish them ALL.

can i bid for the contract.

I will have to ask my Crooky Minister Viewpoint whether you bought your bulldozers from his company first. If yes then don't worry about bidding. The job is YOURS

[Lordo]

i know how it works in thee banana republic. fat brown envelope normally works. this is the south we are talking about right.

never let it be said that we do not follow procedure in the banana republic.

[Pyrpolizer]

i know how it works in thee banana republic. fat brown envelope normally works. this is the south we are talking about right.

never let it be said that we do not follow procedure in the banana republic.

You missed the whole point. I will never become a President and of course never have a croocky Minister called Viewpoint.Hence you will never get any contract and the damn mosques and churches will still be everywhere.
Of course if you still want to get some contracts from the RoC Government, you can always try your fat brown envelope trick, like every other peasant who doesn't know how things work, and see what happens to you.
A better alternative of course could be to ask ex US Vice President Dick Chainey how his companies got all the contracts for the reconstruction of IRaq. The corruption procedure HAPPENS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. so once again you missed my point thinking it only happens in Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

Is that what happened in Greece?

[Pyrpolizer]

Is that what happened in Greece?

The corruption in government contracts is a RULE THAT APPLIES EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. There is absolutely no contract in any Country of let's say more than 10,000 Euros worth (*), that doesn't involve feeding (**) at least one government official. Not even one Country is exempted.For example Austria is one of the last countries you would ever expect to to happen isn't it? Well perhaps you should know that there is Austrian Mafia which is worse than that of Italy, only them get 10-15%, I ve seen it myself...
Greece is no exemption as for Turkey you will be shocked to learn who are usually behind government contracts

However this is not what happened in Greece. In Greece the Governments from 1982 onwards were getting loans on a pyramid fashion by cooking the books and living beyond their capabilities.It's actually a miracle that this pyramid lasted for almost 30 years before collapsing. Something similar happens in the USA, without having to cook any books. They keep on increasing their dept to have growth. They already reached the limit of what (16.5 trillion?) then what? Just cross your fingers....

(*) For low value contracts of say about 10,000 Euros or less there is usually a grace period. It is quite possible to get one contract on merit. Extremely difficult to get a 2nd one. And impossible to get a 3rd one, unless you follow the RULES OF THE GAME.
(**) In the majority of cases it is not even feeding.Simply a high status Government official is hidden behind a company that belongs to either family members or friends.

[Viewpoint]

Is that what happened in Greece?

The corruption in government contracts is a RULE THAT APPLIES EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. There is absolutely no contract in any Country of let's say more than 10,000 Euros worth (*), that doesn't involve feeding (**) at least one government official. Not even one Country is exempted.For example Austria is one of the last countries you would ever expect to to happen isn't it? Well perhaps you should know that there is Austrian Mafia which is worse than that of Italy, only them get 10-15%, I ve seen it myself...
Greece is no exemption as for Turkey you will be shocked to learn who are usually behind government contracts

However this is not what happened in Greece. In Greece the Governments from 1982 onwards were getting loans on a pyramid fashion by cooking the books and living beyond their capabilities.It's actually a miracle that this pyramid lasted for almost 30 years before collapsing. Something similar happens in the USA, without having to cook any books. They keep on increasing their dept to have growth. They already reached the limit of what (16.5 trillion?) then what? Just cross your fingers....

(*) For low value contracts of say about 10,000 Euros or less there is usually a grace period. It is quite possible to get one contract on merit. Extremely difficult to get a 2nd one. And impossible to get a 3rd one, unless you follow the RULES OF THE GAME.
(**) In the majority of cases it is not even feeding.Simply a high status Government official is hidden behind a company that belongs to either family members or friends.

Unlike other countries where I agree corruption exists to varying degrees its was the corruption, government sector strain and diabolical fiscal policies of Greece which took it to bankruptcy, south Cyprus will follow.

[Lordo]

in the banana republic it reaches to the lowest level. you cannot do anything to do with the civil service without back handers.
in other countries it tends to be at the top level. this is particular to the banana republic and greece.

[Pyrpolizer]

in the banana republic it reaches to the lowest level. you cannot do anything to do with the civil service without back handers.
in other countries it tends to be at the top level. this is particular to the banana republic and greece.

How do you know? Have you ever been in a position to check those matters yourself? Or you just heard from here and there?

[repulsewarrior]

THREE youths, aged 17, 18 and 21, have been charged with maliciously damaging an 18th century mosque in Denia last week, authorities said.
In their testimonies the three Greek Cypriots said they had demolished the north and south walls of the mosque that had only started being restored earlier in the month.
The trio have been charged in writing and released.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/mosque-charges/20130127

...back to the topic. swift justice, vandals are responsible; pity that in the north it is the regime itself that is the vandal: there is the undeniable difference.