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[Viewpoint]

...vp, i have answered your questions, and waiting your reply.

Whats the use? we will not understand each other nor do we want to.

[Viewpoint]

Havent you guys got anything to debate, cant you solve the problem on your own? the silence is deafening şts obvious that without the TCs contribution you cant solve the Cyprus problem.

and you VP can't stand a single day without your GC friends

Gc friends enemies more like.

[repulsewarrior]

...vp, i have answered your questions, and waiting your reply.

Whats the use? we will not understand each other nor do we want to.

...again. who is the "we" you are talking about?

you have spent years here, i have spent years here too, and after so many years, just recently you visited my post on a solution proposal, it was a hopeful step forward for many of us. to be credible, if your crdibility is important to you, please, let's continue, and with all the effort i have put into our discussions you cannot ignore the merits of my request.

[Viewpoint]

repulse I answered your manifesto but you never responded so what is it you want me to respond to and what difference will it make, we are like chalk and cheese water and oil...we just dont mix.

[Pyrpolizer]

Havent you guys got anything to debate, cant you solve the problem on your own? the silence is deafening şts obvious that without the TCs contribution you cant solve the Cyprus problem.

and you VP can't stand a single day without your GC friends

Gc friends enemies more like.

I could of have said "enemies" but that would be too insulting for you.
I mean what kind of a person cannot stand a single day without his enemies

[repulsewarrior]

repulse I answered your manifesto but you never responded so what is it you want me to respond to and what difference will it make, we are like chalk and cheese water and oil...we just dont mix.

4. as such, a voter will vote thricely (voting once), from three seperate slates, so that the best representatives are elected by and for the voter's riding, they will vote for their Turkish Cypriot Representative and their Greek Cypriot Representative, as well as their Independant. Representative. (shades of the guy or was it the guy before that)

vp: cyprus39688-90.html#p742105
Risk bells sound here, cross voting for a rep from the the other state could result in unwanted candidates being elected.

...so you see vp, from my previous post above, that you (like any Citizen of Cyprus) will vote from a set of slates, where on each, Parties can field Candidates, and each (slate) represents a Cypriot Constituency. you, as a Person, have within a Territorial Jurisdiction, the Liberty to have self-representation as a Turkish Cypriot (or a Greek Cypriot) always, because of the existence of the respective National Assemblies, and the ability to collect Taxes and to Act. but, the Freedom (and the Land under our feet) we all have to defend universally requires another set of considerations, and that as a State, this requires that we look at ourselves as Liberals, Conservative, Communist, etc., and, as Human Beings within this global context.

...the Lower House, in my mind, is very important because in the years to come it will give Cypriots, ordinary citizens who are well respected members of their electoral riding the chance to take a second look at Bills the Government wishes to pass, and the Public their views. many leaders in Politics will start their Civic service here, who in demonstrating the qualities of Statesmanship as the Independant Representative of a riding, will carry themselves accordingly when they must represent an ideology as well. it would be imaginable in the future, that regions may evolve, as populations increase, and change in demographics, that the Lower House will give a voice to significant elements of their populations as Persons, where the numbers warrant these distinct identities in groups, (other than Cypriot Constituencies) will express the special needs of these minorities if within the Constituencies they are ignored.

in the original manifesto i have included a sentence on the Lower House's special power, and that is to sit in Government Committees, where Bills are drafted. nothing can make the Government more transparent if there is this openess for dialog as Laws are developed, not just intent, but ethic will pass by a vote of a Legislature, regardless the Majority a President may possess in the Upper House.

...your response is appreciated here: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus31695.html

[Pyrpolizer]

repulse I answered your manifesto but you never responded so what is it you want me to respond to and what difference will it make, we are like chalk and cheese water and oil...we just dont mix.

If we couldn't mix we wouldn't be in this forum TOGETHER.
It is our INTERESTS that are contradictory, and we know what kind of interests each side advocates....

[Viewpoint]

Havent you guys got anything to debate, cant you solve the problem on your own? the silence is deafening şts obvious that without the TCs contribution you cant solve the Cyprus problem.

and you VP can't stand a single day without your GC friends

Gc friends enemies more like.

I could of have said "enemies" but that would be too insulting for you.
I mean what kind of a person cannot stand a single day without his enemies

I prefer honesty.

[Viewpoint]

repulse I answered your manifesto but you never responded so what is it you want me to respond to and what difference will it make, we are like chalk and cheese water and oil...we just dont mix.

If we couldn't mix we wouldn't be in this forum TOGETHER.
It is our INTERESTS that are contradictory, and we know what kind of interests each side advocates....

We couldnt be more far apart dont you think its time you realized that?

[Viewpoint]

repulse I answered your manifesto but you never responded so what is it you want me to respond to and what difference will it make, we are like chalk and cheese water and oil...we just dont mix.

4. as such, a voter will vote thricely (voting once), from three seperate slates, so that the best representatives are elected by and for the voter's riding, they will vote for their Turkish Cypriot Representative and their Greek Cypriot Representative, as well as their Independant. Representative. (shades of the guy or was it the guy before that)

vp: cyprus39688-90.html#p742105
Risk bells sound here, cross voting for a rep from the the other state could result in unwanted candidates being elected.

...so you see vp, from my previous post above, that you (like any Citizen of Cyprus) will vote from a set of slates, where on each, Parties can field Candidates, and each (slate) represents a Cypriot Constituency. you, as a Person, have within a Territorial Jurisdiction, the Liberty to have self-representation as a Turkish Cypriot (or a Greek Cypriot) always, because of the existence of the respective National Assemblies, and the ability to collect Taxes and to Act. but, the Freedom (and the Land under our feet) we all have to defend universally requires another set of considerations, and that as a State, this requires that we look at ourselves as Liberals, Conservative, Communist, etc., and, as Human Beings within this global context.

...the Lower House, in my mind, is very important because in the years to come it will give Cypriots, ordinary citizens who are well respected members of their electoral riding the chance to take a second look at Bills the Government wishes to pass, and the Public their views. many leaders in Politics will start their Civic service here, who in demonstrating the qualities of Statesmanship as the Independant Representative of a riding, will carry themselves accordingly when they must represent an ideology as well. it would be imaginable in the future, that regions may evolve, as populations increase, and change in demographics, that the Lower House will give a voice to significant elements of their populations as Persons, where the numbers warrant these distinct identities in groups, (other than Cypriot Constituencies) will express the special needs of these minorities if within the Constituencies they are ignored.

in the original manifesto i have included a sentence on the Lower House's special power, and that is to sit in Government Committees, where Bills are drafted. nothing can make the Government more transparent if there is this openess for dialog as Laws are developed, not just intent, but ethic will pass by a vote of a Legislature, regardless the Majority a President may possess in the Upper House.

...your response is appreciated here: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus31695.html

So lets try and simplify what you are saying every citizen has 3 votes one for the candidates in the north state one for the candidates in the south state and one for the candidates at the federal level, is that right?