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[repulsewarrior]

...i have always appreciated debating with you vp, and i can say that you have helped me to improve myself. for that, i am glad that we have shared a little bit of our lives together.

...but somehow this post, to me, feels more like a good-bye letter. frankly i don't believe that you are Cypriot, argumentative, and opinionated. you are, it seems, ready to sell yourself to the highest bidder, without love, without logic, and for your own selfish gain, not as a Turkish-Cypriot, not as a Turk, but a "Turk", not even for Turkey, but for the deep state in Turkey which remains focused on the exploitation of anyone they deem not "Turkish" enough.

...it's sad because i thought you are much wiser, and a better person than that.

[Lordo]

...i have always appreciated debating with you vp, and i can say that you have helped me to improve myself. for that, i am glad that we have shared a little bit of our lives together.

...but somehow this post, to me, feels more like a good-bye letter. frankly i don't believe that you are Cypriot, argumentative, and opinionated. you are, it seems, ready to sell yourself to the highest bidder, without love, without logic, and for your own selfish gain, not as a Turkish-Cypriot, not as a Turk, but a "Turk", not even for Turkey, but for the deep state in Turkey which remains focused on the exploitation of anyone they deem not "Turkish" enough.

...it's sad because i thought you are much wiser, and a better person than that.

rw that is the feeling of most tcs today. there is an old turkish proverb translated means the one who falls in the sea grabs onto the serpant - denize dusen yilana sarilir. the reason why is that the sea will almost kill them where as they have a chance with the serpant no matter how small. the roc pushed the tcs in the sea. they have been given no other alternative. it is not just vp you are losing it is the whole of the tc nation. the trouble is most pepole cannot see the obvious in front of them and live most of their lives in denial.

[repulsewarrior]

...Lordo, with all your threats, and your glorification of Turkey's powers as a violent entity, you are not so credible. as for your analogy, either you love Cyprus or not. did you say, "I love Cyprus, first"? sorry dude i don't remember, will you say it again? and if you want recognition as Turkish Cypriots, rather than the sweeping generalisations you make that make Greeks, "Greeks", you do none of us who are Cypriots any service. four little words go a long way in this case.

[Viewpoint]

bill and maxi you still dont get it do you, why should we give up the TRNC you have to persuade us that we will be better off uniting than staying as we are. I have never hidden the fact that after taking into consideration the GC mindset I believe that partition is the only healthy option but am willing and is mainly the reason why I remain on this forum to be persuaded otherwise.

I personally don't beleive you anymore VP. Sorry...

You can think what you like.

[Kikapu]

bill and maxi you still dont get it do you, why should we give up the TRNC you have to persuade us that we will be better off uniting than staying as we are. I have never hidden the fact that after taking into consideration the GC mindset I believe that partition is the only healthy option but am willing and is mainly the reason why I remain on this forum to be persuaded otherwise.

I personally don't beleive you anymore VP. Sorry...

Pyro, what took you so long?

[Pyrpolizer]

bill and maxi you still dont get it do you, why should we give up the TRNC you have to persuade us that we will be better off uniting than staying as we are. I have never hidden the fact that after taking into consideration the GC mindset I believe that partition is the only healthy option but am willing and is mainly the reason why I remain on this forum to be persuaded otherwise.

I personally don't beleive you anymore VP. Sorry...

Pyro, what took you so long?

My stupidity

[Kikapu]

bill and maxi you still dont get it do you, why should we give up the TRNC you have to persuade us that we will be better off uniting than staying as we are. I have never hidden the fact that after taking into consideration the GC mindset I believe that partition is the only healthy option but am willing and is mainly the reason why I remain on this forum to be persuaded otherwise.

I personally don't beleive you anymore VP. Sorry...

Pyro, what took you so long?

My stupidity

No, I don't think so.

I would say it was your good human nature in giving people the benefit of the doubt, even to known Racist Fascists like VP.

[GreekIslandGirl]

You are already recognised!

- As a Turkish occupation!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -in-peace/

[bill cobbett]

bill and maxi you still dont get it do you, why should we give up the TRNC you have to persuade us that we will be better off uniting than staying as we are. I have never hidden the fact that after taking into consideration the GC mindset I believe that partition is the only healthy option but am willing and is mainly the reason why I remain on this forum to be persuaded otherwise.

I personally don't beleive you anymore VP. Sorry...

you are so predictable. good cop bad cop all by yourself. very clever.

one womders with such master debators amongst you how the hell did you lose 37% of the cyprus to the turks.

There's no good cop/bad cop Lordo, what you do have are four or five people of good nature who have got off the usual negotiating positions and who are posting honestly in support of a zonal arrangement. We may be hoping for a similarly friendly response.

We've failed to convince VP to agree to an equitable BBF but how about you...???

... So here's a second chance for you to show some good nature and tell us where you stand Lordo, you've seen RW's Manifesto, Kiks Federal Plan and BillC's quick sketch of the major points for a settlement... all three of them are BBFs.

Which one do you find agreeable please...???

[bill cobbett]

...i have always appreciated debating with you vp, and i can say that you have helped me to improve myself. for that, i am glad that we have shared a little bit of our lives together.

...but somehow this post, to me, feels more like a good-bye letter. frankly i don't believe that you are Cypriot, argumentative, and opinionated. you are, it seems, ready to sell yourself to the highest bidder, without love, without logic, and for your own selfish gain, not as a Turkish-Cypriot, not as a Turk, but a "Turk", not even for Turkey, but for the deep state in Turkey which remains focused on the exploitation of anyone they deem not "Turkish" enough.

...it's sad because i thought you are much wiser, and a better person than that.

rw that is the feeling of most tcs today. there is an old turkish proverb translated means the one who falls in the sea grabs onto the serpant - denize dusen yilana sarilir. the reason why is that the sea will almost kill them where as they have a chance with the serpant no matter how small. the roc pushed the tcs in the sea. they have been given no other alternative. it is not just vp you are losing it is the whole of the tc nation. the trouble is most pepole cannot see the obvious in front of them and live most of their lives in denial.

Another very decent post from RW but Lordo's attempt at replying is the usual poor one of full of generalisations and untruths particularly in the light of a few of us trying to reach out to him with a support of an equitable zonal arrangement in the other thread.

Lordo dear, most of the people you call "tcs" are not so much worried about living in a future zonal arrangement with the other CYs as they are about their decimation at the hands of the Occupation Regime under the present situation, particularly being outnumbered 2 or 3:1 by the Illegal Settlers and as we all know the Big Talk in the Occupied Areas at the mo is Resistance to any more Turkification.