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[zan]

This is even funnier than your previous posts you have been watch to many James Bond Movies.
It will change nothing but make the problem difficult and complicated to a degree that you will not be able to resolve it. 500.000 new generation TCs, where and how do you think you will kick them out? so your heading for zero population in the north

I thought last time you and your monkey on the shoulder lordo were talking for 1million? In reality the occupied can sustain a limited number of people. And this is about 300,000 the maximum.
When the time comes and all this population are settlers we will not kick them out. We will just let them leave by themselves! Just like 70,000 Pontians left the free areas because of unemployement within just 6 months.

So if there are jobs, they can stay You are tying yourself in knots re Pyro

[Viewpoint]

This is even funnier than your previous posts you have been watch to many James Bond Movies.
It will change nothing but make the problem difficult and complicated to a degree that you will not be able to resolve it. 500.000 new generation TCs, where and how do you think you will kick them out? so your heading for zero population in the north

I thought last time you and your monkey on the shoulder lordo were talking for 1million? In reality the occupied can sustain a limited number of people. And this is about 300,000 the maximum.
When the time comes and all this population are settlers we will not kick them out. We will just let them leave by themselves! Just like 70,000 Pontians left the free areas because of unemployement within just 6 months.

500.000 or 1 million you are missing the point they will be in the TRNC and you cannot get rid of them, how can you remove every living person from the TRNC surely you cannot be that stupid to think they will all just up and leave because you want them to. Pyro like it or not but any solution will include your acceptance that the population in the north be it old or new generation TCs will be directly or indirectly a part of a new united Cyprus. When did the Pontians leave any links?

[Maximus]

The point is that Turkish nationals cannot demand any rights in the Republic of Cyprus. This also does not mean recognition for them if the Greek Cypriots refuse to reunify with Turkish citizens.

it sounds as if you want to pack yourselves in like a bunch of tight knitted sardines to lower the quality of your living standards alongside economic disadvantages.

[Viewpoint]

The point is that Turkish nationals cannot demand any rights in the Republic of Cyprus. This also does not mean recognition for them if the Greek Cypriots refuse to reunify with Turkish citizens.

it sounds as if you want to pack yourselves in like a bunch of tight knitted sardines to lower the quality of your living standards alongside economic disadvantages.

Dont worry about our quality of life we can take care of that, what you have to worry about is how will you get 500.000 to 1 million people to depart leave not a sole in the north, who will you sit with at the negotiating table to get them to agree to emptying out the north?

[Maximus]

It does not mean that the republic will prefer to unify with Turkish Citizens and you have somewhat confirmed that there will be no legitimate Kibrisli interlocutors left to negotiate with. why would the republic unify with Turkish citizens? they are not Cypriot. I thought this thread was about what is need for recognition and all you are arguing for now is what to do to ensure that recognition does not happen.

[Viewpoint]

Its you people that have stated that the TRNC will become Turkish and that will help you get back the north because all the Turks will just pack up their bags and go home which is not going to happen.

For us to gain recognition we have to get the big player the USA to get the ball rolling and the other nations will follow, we have to work closer with Turkey to get them to persuade the USA that the GCs have time and time again rejected any solution plans and that we will never unite, recognition is finally our right and that support will get the ball rolling. I know this is not what you want to hear but you have to admit that the differences between us our so wide we can never bridge them. Our alternative route is to give back land to the GCs so they can get as many refugees back as possible for recognition of the TRNC.

[Maximus]

but Turks have obtained recognition already, they are a nation of people with their own country that has clearly defined and internationally recognize borders. Turkey's borders do not extend into Cyprus EEZ, where the Cypriot nation resides and have sovereignty.

No such thing that you propose will happen VP.

[Viewpoint]

but Turks have obtained recognition already, they are a nation of people with their own country that has clearly defined and internationally recognize borders. Turkey's borders do not extend into Cyprus EEZ, where the Cypriot nation resides and have sovereignty.

No such thing that you propose will happen VP.

Debating with you has become mundane and fruitless, its obvious that we are the prime reasons why we should never unite, I cannot force you to do anything and you cannot force me so we can at expect more of the same you fight your corner and well fight ours.

[Maximus]

your welcome VP, take the advice and feedback from this thread and stop chasing the Greek Cypriots around. go your separate way. good night.

[Me Ed]

VP,

with Islamism creeping into Turkey, what do you think your chances are of getting the US to side with you and push for recognition?

Don't you think the RoC has it's lobbyists well placed within the US Government?