Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu wrote:Lordo wrote:take your head out of your ass and stop and think for just 5 seconds. why is it that tcs prefer terkey to roc. they have choice they could move south on mass without any debate unlike your gcs who love it. and yet less then 3000 have done it. there must be at least 60000 who has property in the south. what is it that makes them like roc less than turkey. and that my friend is saying something. answer that and you would have seen the light.
are the lights on upstairs or is there complete darkness and nothingness
There are many reasons as to why the TCs cannot claim these properties as if you didn't know. Here are few.
1. Many of the original owners, parents/grand parents are dead with the deeds still in their names.
2. The heirs to the parents/grand parents property have not gone trough probate in the RoC in order to have their parents/grand parents property to be placed in their names, therefore the future heirs cannot take any property in the south belonging to their parents/grand parents.
3. Many of the TCs gave their parents/grand parents deeds to their property in the south to the "trnc" (Turkey) in order to receive stolen GCs property in the north and are now caught in a trap of becoming "Double Dipping", which the north's authorities (Turkey) will not take it too kindly if the TCs attempted to get their (parents/grand parents) properties in the south, even if they could, because once they have received stolen GC properties in the north, they have voluntarily have given up their rights to those properties in the south, even though the RoC does not recognise it
, but the TCs in the north will be punished severely by the "trnc" if they dared "Double Dipping". They will not be able to return back to the north for the threat of being prosecuted.4. Any TC who were in Cyprus in 1974 at the time of the invasion by Turkey are not eligible to have their properties in the south returned to them by the RoC until a settlement is reached, even if the heirs had gone through probate in the RoC of their parents/grand parents properties. Only those TCs who were not in Cyprus in 1974 at the time of the Turkish invasion can have their parents/grand parents properties returned once they have gone trough probate or that they were the sole heirs which does not require probate but documents to satisfy the court in the RoC that he/she is the sole heir.
Wow!! I kind of suspected that something like that was one of the main reasons. Kikapu could you please keep an eye on this issue and give us more info when such a case goes to the courts in the occupied? I mean there must have been at least one who tried this "double dipping". Have you seen a case in the newspapers?
Pyro,
The "trnc" (Turkey) will do anything to discourage the TCs from trying to take their family property back in the south, because they will needs all these deeds taken from the TCs in return for stolen GCs properties in the north, to at some point to exchange the land in the south to land in the north in order to establish the boundaries between states at a Federal settlement. I don't know of any court cases in the north regarding "Double Dipping" since I do not involve myself directly in what goes on there, but I have plenty of family members who do and talking with them it is clear that the "trnc" has got the TCs by the balls regarding their properties in the south if in fact the TCs did give their good deeds to the "trnc" to stolen GC properties in the north.
Now, not all the TCs got stolen GCs properties in return for their good deeds for their properties in the south. First they ALL got certain points against their family's properties in the south instead of value. The points then were converted towards stolen GCs properties, often a TC needing more points to receive the GC property than the points given to them for their property in the south in a like for like basis. Since not all the TCs received GC properties for their point, they could sell their points to others who would then put it towards in getting their GC properties, so some TCs sold their points on the cheap and now have nothing left while the "trnc" still holding their deeds for the property in the south as if it's their own. This is why they would punish any TC in trying to "double dipping". The "trnc" will see it as if the TC trying to get their property back in the south as if he was stealing the property from the "trnc" since they now claim to be the owners of said properties. Clearly you can see who is really fcuking the TCs on this issue.
There are also many TCs who bought points from others on the cheap to buy stolen GCs properties in the north on the cheap from those TCs who received GCs properties in exchange for their family property in the south. VP and Lordo are the kind who have done this, hence their eagerness to have a settlement based on the AP, because they would get to keep most of their stolen loot. Not only that, but it would also make them very rich. I was just talking with a family member who is also morally corrupt (yes, I have a few in my greater family circles also) that around the time of the AP in 2004, the GC land he had bought was valued at around £30,000 pounds per Dönüm, but now, it is is worth only 1/10th at £3,000 pounds. Naturally, a settlement based on EU Principles will strip away most of the GC land away from morally corrupt individuals like VP and Lordo. Those who only received stolen GC property against their family property in the south will break even once they get their property back in the south in a settlement, but all those who bought stolen GC properties on the cheap with money will lose most of their investments. Again, you can see the desperation in VP's and Lordo's posts. It looks like they will lose their shirts, hence the need for a no settlement other than a AP type or a recognised independent partition of north state.
The majority got from 3-5 times!! Some (very few) got zero of course.
