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[Kikapu]

We have to keep working hard to show that we are not going anywhere in fact our population growth continues and that the south does not want a solution. We have to increas international diplomacy and think of ways to use this gas find to our advantage, we muct work closely with USA to guarantee the route goes through the TRNC and Turkey giving us more leverage in working for recognition.

1. That's going to be hard to gain any sympathy when you don't want a settlement based on True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International law.

2. You don't have a working relationship with the USA. USA will do what Israel wants to do with it's resources and how it will be delivered to the EU and not what the "trnc" wants. Soon Gas fields near Crete will be added to the greater piping system connecting Cyprus and Israel's Gas fields for gas to go to the EU through Greece.

3. The TCs are being replaced by the settlers all the time. The growing population in the north are the Illegal Aliens.

4. Turkey does not want to give you any leverage for recognition.

[Viewpoint]

We have to keep working hard to show that we are not going anywhere in fact our population growth continues and that the south does not want a solution. We have to increas international diplomacy and think of ways to use this gas find to our advantage, we muct work closely with USA to guarantee the route goes through the TRNC and Turkey giving us more leverage in working for recognition.

1. That's going to be hard to gain any sympathy when you don't want a settlement based on True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International law.

We said YES you said NO and the world doesnt forget, that day will dawn.

2. You don't have a working relationship with the USA. USA will do what Israel wants to do with it's resources and how it will be delivered to the EU and not what the "trnc" wants. Soon Gas fields near Crete will be added to the greater piping system connecting Cyprus and Israel's Gas fields for gas to go to the EU through Greece.

Now I know you are real crazy 10 times more expensive to go via Crete or anywhere else, the EU and USA will opt for Turkey mark my words, the cogwheels are in motion.

3. The TCs are being replaced by the settlers all the time. The growing population in the north are the Illegal Aliens.

All to be accepted when the trnc is recognized.


4. Turkey does not want to give you any leverage for recognition.

This will change as it is the backup plan, timing is everything and the GCs are running out of it real fast.

March 2013 a new scenario will be revealed where the GCs will not be to happy as the USA wants the gas to go through the north and Turkey therefore forcing time tables for a solution that if not reached will result in automatic recognition of the TRNC....watch and learn.

[Kikapu]

March 2013 a new scenario will be revealed where the GCs will not be to happy as the USA wants the gas to go through the north and Turkey therefore forcing time tables for a solution that if not reached will result in automatic recognition of the TRNC....watch and learn.

Everyone has forgotten to what you have said YES to back in 2004, or else they would insist on bringing back the AP today. No one has ask for it back (except for Turkey), because the RoC is now in the EU

UNSC resolutions does not ask for time limits on negotiations, because, if one doesn't want a solution, they will just run out the clock, and presto, get a "settlement through the back door".

It is no secret that Eroglu is going to ask for Time Frames, because he wants a "back door settlement". He won't get it.

Unless Turkey is in the EU, there's no way the EU will want Gas from Israel and Cyprus to go through Turkey, not to mention Cyprus and Israel themselves also, let alone through the "trnc". With Gas prospects coming from Crete also, it will make sense to pipe everything together to Greece, even if it does cost more in the short run, but much much cheaper in the long run, and we are talking about 2-3 hundred years.

We are still waiting to watch & learn with all your other predictions. They haven't happened yet.

[Pyrpolizer]

Whay exactly is needed to be recognized as an independant state? If 7 countries take the step to recognize the TRNC then do all the other countries follow, or if the USA decided they wanted to they could easily persuade the rest of the world?

The very first step is to start returning land to the RoC until the occupied drops down to 18%.
Assuming you do that you will still need to work further it won't come easy, all you will have at that point is reasonable chances.

Under current conditions you can only dream about recognition.

As for getting the help of the USA via Turkey, just forget it, they have already invested too much in Turkey and they are constantly on the danger of having created another Iran or Iraq.
For the moment the USA is concentrating on Syria's future anyway.

[repulsewarrior]

We have to keep working hard to show that we are not going anywhere in fact our population growth continues and that the south does not want a solution. We have to increas international diplomacy and think of ways to use this gas find to our advantage, we muct work closely with USA to guarantee the route goes through the TRNC and Turkey giving us more leverage in working for recognition.

...you must keep the streets cleaned, and offer the service to your electors they expect. you must eliminate the corruption that boils in the "deals" that are made by your governing authorities and its "partners" in socio-economic development. you must demonstrate a Rule of Law where Universal Principals are effectively applied. you must rely on yourselves, rather than Turkey, and other interlocutors who are surely demanding some consideration for their interest.

...then, you must make amends, because as there are "Greeks" there are "Turks", and their plunder cannot be left dismissed through denial.

...do this in two years, and it may be possible that a pipeline, as a route, will travel north.

[repulsewarrior]

Whay exactly is needed to be recognized as an independant state? If 7 countries take the step to recognize the TRNC then do all the other countries follow, or if the USA decided they wanted to they could easily persuade the rest of the world?

In a nutshell VP, recognition of your so called "trnc" is in the hands of the RoC and the GCs.

if you are right and it is in the hands of the gcs then there is only one way. it has to be won and it has to be won with the barrel of a gun. it is the only thing you swine understand.

ennaynide sandon shillon bu efaen do gatsoshiron.

That won't work Lordo.

that remains to be seen. I am not aware of a single country who was given idependence. it has to be won. All opressors are the same.

Canada?

...also Bicommunal, by the way.

[bill cobbett]

Australia...???

[repulsewarrior]

Whay exactly is needed to be recognized as an independant state? If 7 countries take the step to recognize the TRNC then do all the other countries follow, or if the USA decided they wanted to they could easily persuade the rest of the world?

In a nutshell VP, recognition of your so called "trnc" is in the hands of the RoC and the GCs.

if you are right and it is in the hands of the gcs then there is only one way. it has to be won and it has to be won with the barrel of a gun. it is the only thing you swine understand.

ennaynide sandon shillon bu efaen do gatsoshiron.

...are you calling me swine?

...why, because it happens that i am Greek, or not "Turkish" enough?

...dogs. pigs, make up your mind, mixing metaphors, making threats, again i ask, are you Cypriot, you sound like a "Greek"/"Turk".

Lordo, can you say, "I love Cyprus, first."

[Lordo]

Whay exactly is needed to be recognized as an independant state? If 7 countries take the step to recognize the TRNC then do all the other countries follow, or if the USA decided they wanted to they could easily persuade the rest of the world?

In a nutshell VP, recognition of your so called "trnc" is in the hands of the RoC and the GCs.

if you are right and it is in the hands of the gcs then there is only one way. it has to be won and it has to be won with the barrel of a gun. it is the only thing you swine understand.

ennaynide sandon shillon bu efaen do gatsoshiron.

...are you calling me swine?

...why, because it happens that i am Greek, or not "Turkish" enough?

...dogs. pigs, make up your mind, mixing metaphors, making threats, again i ask, are you Cypriot, you sound like a "Greek"/"Turk".
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo rw never to you. you are a cypriot.

it is all these greek wanabees that are the swine. thw whole lot of them.

Lordo, can you say, "I love Cyprus, first."

[repulsewarrior]

please, then, for the sake of the rest of us, make it clear...

...please say. "I love Cyprus, first"

then tell the "Greeks/Turks", something where you'll find Greeks and Turks will support you, as Cypriots, too.

...war with the south, again i ask you, are you Cypriot?