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[Viewpoint]

No repulse due to your style of writting we appear to get cross wires every now and then but on this issue your are adamantly refusing to answer or see why we only only love the North Cyprus and why I said LONG LIVE THE TRNC which annoyed you so much. Its because this is our best option when you take into account what GCs potray on this forum, which is a minority in our own country especially when you consider that the GCs will donminate manipulate and exploit TCs under what they label "true democracy" based on sand which can change in the wind to suit certain citizens to the detrement of others.

I have always said I am open to be persuaded in favor of a BBF with political equality if it is based along the lines of the AP which you GCs continue to reject.

I bet you do.

The AP of 2004 went against Federation, Democracy, Human Rights and International law, therefore, it cannot be acceptable to the EU because it does not conform with it's principles now that the RoC is a full member of the EU, or else, the EU would be the first to ask for it back. It's just the same way as to why Turkey today cannot become an EU member because Turkey cannot conform to the EU Principles.

So you are saying the UN EU USA UK Greece etc were supporting a plan that was "against Federation, Democracy, Human Rights and International law" do you know how stupid you sound...its the UN EU USA UK Greece plus the majority of the International Community VS Kikapoooo we all know who we believe and it aint you.

[Maximus]

even still VP, Turkey has not been pardoned for her occupation of the north of Cyprus and the EU parliament, the USA and the UN are still calling for the resolutions to be implemented.

The EU would still have accepted the RoC into the bloc even if the GC's acepted the annan plan and how do you know that Cyprus would not have reverted back to it's eligibility status shortly afterwards when it was fully under the EU's umbrella. Turkey may have been gone at such a time so maybe the GC's did screw up here slightly.

It doesnt change a thing though, it's Turkey vs the rest of the world and we all know who we beleive and it aint you, thats for sure.

[Viewpoint]

even still VP, Turkey has not been pardoned for her occupation of the north of Cyprus and the EU parliament, the USA and the UN are still calling for the resolutions to be implemented.

The EU would still have accepted the RoC into the bloc even if the GC's acepted the annan plan and how do you know that Cyprus would not have reverted back to it's eligibility status shortly afterwards when it was fully under the EU's umbrella. Turkey may have been gone at such a time so maybe the GC's did screw up here slightly.

It doesnt change a thing though, it's Turkey vs the rest of the world and we all know who we beleive and it aint you, thats for sure.

Maxi please be realistic its been 39 years and you and the world has you put it havent been able to get an inch of land back, you havent been able to force Turkey to do anything, even joining the EU has got you no closer to solution, this must tell you loads Maxi no one gives a shit about your little problem or they would have helped you many years ago.

The accepting AP and then reneing back to EU status is something we would expect of the GCs, so your mindset only confirmes why we need so many checks and balances you are not to be trusted as you will use all loopholes available to you to get the upper hand and push us to one side.

[Maximus]

even still VP, Turkey has not been pardoned for her occupation of the north of Cyprus and the EU parliament, the USA and the UN are still calling for the resolutions to be implemented.

The EU would still have accepted the RoC into the bloc even if the GC's acepted the annan plan and how do you know that Cyprus would not have reverted back to it's eligibility status shortly afterwards when it was fully under the EU's umbrella. Turkey may have been gone at such a time so maybe the GC's did screw up here slightly.

It doesnt change a thing though, it's Turkey vs the rest of the world and we all know who we beleive and it aint you, thats for sure.

Maxi please be realistic its been 39 years and you and the world has you put it havent been able to get an inch of land back, you havent been able to force Turkey to do anything, even joining the EU has got you no closer to solution, this must tell you loads Maxi no one gives a shit about your little problem or they would have helped you many years ago.

The accepting AP and then reneing back to EU status is something we would expect of the GCs, so your mindset only confirmes why we need so many checks and balances you are not to be trusted as you will use all loopholes available to you to get the upper hand and push us to one side.

It doesnt matter if it takes another 39 years, the RoC will never recognise you and neither will the rest of the world. The problem is locked because of Turkey's intransigence not the RoC's unwillingness to hand over a third of its country to Turkey and settlers becuase it is under occupation.

Just some gibberish.

[Viewpoint]

even still VP, Turkey has not been pardoned for her occupation of the north of Cyprus and the EU parliament, the USA and the UN are still calling for the resolutions to be implemented.

The EU would still have accepted the RoC into the bloc even if the GC's acepted the annan plan and how do you know that Cyprus would not have reverted back to it's eligibility status shortly afterwards when it was fully under the EU's umbrella. Turkey may have been gone at such a time so maybe the GC's did screw up here slightly.

It doesnt change a thing though, it's Turkey vs the rest of the world and we all know who we beleive and it aint you, thats for sure.

Maxi please be realistic its been 39 years and you and the world has you put it havent been able to get an inch of land back, you havent been able to force Turkey to do anything, even joining the EU has got you no closer to solution, this must tell you loads Maxi no one gives a shit about your little problem or they would have helped you many years ago.

The accepting AP and then reneing back to EU status is something we would expect of the GCs, so your mindset only confirmes why we need so many checks and balances you are not to be trusted as you will use all loopholes available to you to get the upper hand and push us to one side.

It doesnt matter if it takes another 39 years, the RoC will never recognise you and neither will the rest of the world. The problem is locked because of Turkey's intransigence not the RoC's unwillingness to hand over a third of its country to Turkey and settlers becuase it is under occupation.

Just some gibberish.

Then we arrive at where we are today division, but believe me if the incentives are sufficent for big players not only you but the martians will reconize us but for now those conditions have not materialized this does nto mean they wont this is the risk you take.

Honestly Maxi I dont know how you cannot see that we have rights and those rights have to be respected by you as it is by the UN and every other international body who consult us with regards to a solution, you cannot resolve the Cyprus issue without us are you aware of this fact? Why arent Gcs more pro active in encouraging the TCs to work accross the divide to a better understanding of the benefits of union, or there isnt sufficent material to support such a claim seeing how bad your economy is doing, what was it 10 billion Euros?

[Maximus]

I think the RoC is just waiting for those TC's, who think like you, to become extinct. Turkey will always remain a problem regardless, given how maluable the TC's are and given that they dont give a damn about the majority of the citizens in their so called nation and given that they want 2-3 settlers forever behind them, Turkey will forever be meddling in the republics internal affairs. This is all to the detriment of the GC's and the GC's really dont have much to gain from all of this if you think about it properly. You have to take into account that the GC's more or less make up the Cypriot nation all by themselves too, so in the grand scheme of things, the TC's are a backward and illegitimate minority looking to instill medievil ways on a forward looking and progressive population.

I dont think the GC's want a solution under the current climate because it seems that they have to accept full blame for everything and welcome the TC's back as pasha's under an apartheid system. For what?

It seems to me that the TC's are more or less history already but this does not change the status quo unfortunately.

[repulsewarrior]

I have always said I am open to be persuaded in favor of a BBF with political equality if it is based along the lines of the AP which you GCs continue to reject.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus31695.html#p742056

...kindly reply point by point; step by step, as you've said before,

[Maximus]

Its no good repulse, this problem of epic proportions is like trying to beat a supersized truck tyre uphill with a bamboo cane. it doesnt work.

removing any so called legitimate interlocutors from the equation will stop this dead though.

[Viewpoint]

Its no good repulse, this purposefully gnerated problem of epic proportions is like trying to beat a supersized truck tyre uphill with a bamboo cane. it doesnt work.

removing any so called legitimate interlocutors from the equation will stop this dead though.

You are obviously referring to yourselves.

[Maximus]

no, I am referring to repulses very respectible, fair and equitable plan (not that I need to read it to know this) that you will reject.

Please go ahead, he is waiting for your reply.