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[CBBB]

I get it about wind farms and photovoltaic, but what about Home Fuel Cells?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_fuel_cell

Fuel cells are engines, which don't require RES to work, just H2, which can be produced from CH4 (i.e. natural gas).

Nuclear energy is a far better solution because of its dual use (see Iran).

...but I can't use that in my back garden, or can I?

[cyprusgrump]

I saw a programme about CHP systems many, many years ago (long before the global warming scam)...

They used (if I remember correctly) a Fiat 127 engine... it drove a generator and provided hot water for heating and domestic use... It was all super-insulated and the engine was able to run at its most efficient speed... I think it was connected to a number of houses in a small community.

I guess the key would be matching output to requirements... in Cyprus there would be little point having a system that produced hundreds of gallons of hot water in the summer for instance...

[kurupetos]

I get it about wind farms and photovoltaic, but what about Home Fuel Cells?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_fuel_cell

Fuel cells are engines, which don't require RES to work, just H2, which can be produced from CH4 (i.e. natural gas).

Nuclear energy is a far better solution because of its dual use (see Iran).

...but I can't use that in my back garden, or can I?

Let me ask my Iranian colleagues...

[kurupetos]

I saw a programme about CHP systems many, many years ago (long before the global warming scam)...

They used (if I remember correctly) a Fiat 127 engine... it drove a generator and provided hot water for heating and domestic use... It was all super-insulated and the engine was able to run at its most efficient speed... I think it was connected to a number of houses in a small community.

I guess the key would be matching output to requirements... in Cyprus there would be little point having a system that produced hundreds of gallons of hot water in the summer for instance...

Cyprus is only good for solars and winds...

[kurupetos]

I guess this project will never materialize...

http://www.cyi.ac.cy/solarenergyanddesalination-ongoing/item/200-csp-dsw-cogeneration-of-electricity-and-desalinated-sea-water-using-concentrated-solar-power.html

[cyprusgrump]

I guess this project will never materialize...

http://www.cyi.ac.cy/solarenergyanddesalination-ongoing/item/200-csp-dsw-cogeneration-of-electricity-and-desalinated-sea-water-using-concentrated-solar-power.html

good!

It has never been done viably, you need vast areas of ugly mirrors and they tend to blow up spectacularly...

[CBBB]

I saw a programme about CHP systems many, many years ago (long before the global warming scam)...

They used (if I remember correctly) a Fiat 127 engine... it drove a generator and provided hot water for heating and domestic use... It was all super-insulated and the engine was able to run at its most efficient speed... I think it was connected to a number of houses in a small community.

I guess the key would be matching output to requirements... in Cyprus there would be little point having a system that produced hundreds of gallons of hot water in the summer for instance...

Not quite correct about the need for hot water, restaurants, bakeries, hotels, and certainly some industries require a lot more hot water than they can produce with the normal solar water heaters. They could very easily benefit from micro-CHP.

The thing would be to use the hot water for cooling, possibly with some sort of heat pump? I have no idea if that is viable.

[cyprusgrump]

I saw a programme about CHP systems many, many years ago (long before the global warming scam)...

They used (if I remember correctly) a Fiat 127 engine... it drove a generator and provided hot water for heating and domestic use... It was all super-insulated and the engine was able to run at its most efficient speed... I think it was connected to a number of houses in a small community.

I guess the key would be matching output to requirements... in Cyprus there would be little point having a system that produced hundreds of gallons of hot water in the summer for instance...

Not quite correct about the need for hot water, restaurants, bakeries, hotels, and certainly some industries require a lot more hot water than they can produce with the normal solar water heaters. They could very easily benefit from micro-CHP.

The thing would be to use the hot water for cooling, possibly with some sort of heat pump? I have no idea if that is viable.

Could be...

If electricity gets any more expensive here I might connect a generator up to the Panjero....

[Get Real!]

Wouldn’t it be funny if the govt was to install one of those wind thingies on Grumpy’s rooftop!

[cyprusgrump]

Wouldn’t it be funny if the govt was to install one of those wind thingies on Grumpy’s rooftop!

At least they don't spin round that much....