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[denizaksulu]

Calm down everyone, calm down otherwise this iintetesting topic will be ruined by none-scientific abuse.

Shame that this topic is not GRs Forte!

[supporttheunderdog]

but the fact remains that all the genetic research shows that the Greek Speaking Cypriots and Turkish Speaking Cypriots are genetically very similar so current Cypriots must have similar shared ancestry.

They are as genetically similar as any other two groups of people and if you ever find anything which shows otherwise, please post the research. Until then, you are just trolling.

I have already pointed you at the work of Dr Geoffrey Dean.

[Sotos]

Things are simple really. History and Genetics show the same thing: Greek Cypriots are descendants of the Mycenaeans / Achaeans. Other Greeks are a mix of Achaeans, Dorians, Ionians and Aeolians. If Turkish Cypriots are similar genetically to us then before they became Turkish they must have been Greek Cypriots. There is no other logical way that could explain how Turkish Cypriots are genetically similar to us ... if they are.

[denizaksulu]

Goodness gracious me; I am surprised as to what lengths people will go to to prove that 'TC's' do not belong to Cyprus. Especially as a major part of our island is lost to the invaders and most likely will never be re-united again.
What a carry on. I thought genetıcs carried no weight in these matters. I've been searching for a quote from our Phoenix when she mentions apes, humans having some genetical relatinship but I will keep shtum as I dont wish to misrepresent.
In the intercommunal talks does one think that genetics is discussed?

[GreekIslandGirl]

but the fact remains that all the genetic research shows that the Greek Speaking Cypriots and Turkish Speaking Cypriots are genetically very similar so current Cypriots must have similar shared ancestry.

They are as genetically similar as any other two groups of people and if you ever find anything which shows otherwise, please post the research. Until then, you are just trolling.

I have already pointed you at the work of Dr Geoffrey Dean.

Other than posting random names and general links you have not posted any research which backs up your Imperialist claims - so why don't you stop trolling?

The TCs are as related to bananas as GCs happen to be! But GCs are home-grown bananas!

[Sotos]

Goodness gracious me; I am surprised as to what lengths people will go to to prove that 'TC's' do not belong to Cyprus. Especially as a major part of our island is lost to the invaders and most likely will never be re-united again.
What a carry on. I thought genetıcs carried no weight in these matters. I've been searching for a quote from our Phoenix when she mentions apes, humans having some genetical relatinship but I will keep shtum as I dont wish to misrepresent.
In the intercommunal talks does one think that genetics is discussed?

Genetics don't matter at all. What belongs to Cyprus is what is compatible with the native Cypriots. Are TCs compatible with the native Cypriots? If they are native themselves... which means that their ancestors were Greek Cypriots... then they should return to their roots and stop supporting the invaders!

[supporttheunderdog]

Goodness gracious me; I am surprised as to what lengths people will go to to prove that 'TC's' do not belong to Cyprus. Especially as a major part of our island is lost to the invaders and most likely will never be re-united again.
What a carry on. I thought genetıcs carried no weight in these matters. I've been searching for a quote from our Phoenix when she mentions apes, humans having some genetical relatinship but I will keep shtum as I dont wish to misrepresent.
In the intercommunal talks does one think that genetics is discussed?

Genetics don't matter at all. What belongs to Cyprus is what is compatible with the native Cypriots. Are TCs compatible with the native Cypriots? If they are native themselves... which means that their ancestors were Greek Cypriots... then they should return to their roots and stop supporting the invaders!

But Oracle/|Phoenix/GIG etc would surely disagree bearing in mind she appears willing to accept if not promote the proposition that self identification is OK even if mistaken...

[GreekIslandGirl]

On the contrary, GIG has promoted the concept of us all being kin to bananas and will only accept migrationary data to discern nativeness - whereas the Imperialist DOG propounds racist, unverifiable "genetics" from pre-isolated mutations to support devolution of Cyprus to invading TURKS.

There is nothing wrong with genetics. It is not the enemy. Along with history it WILL help sort out a few anomalies and discrepencies. However, in the hands of idiots like STUD it will be destroyed before it can prove useful

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, Cypriot Statehood has more to do with bananas than it has to do with its genetics today, or National sentiments; i agree. Bread and butter, there is only one planet, if you don't believe in God, that's where its at, or where it should be, whether, as Persons we identify ourselves with distinctions to sustain, or not. in Cyprus, i think thinking must change, as good Greeks, if you will, they must lead with the way forward a new form of Governance beyond the idea of Nations as States, but Bicommunally a State where within there are Nations.

...question, looking for Cypriots, how far does that go, haven't there been inhabitants since before recorded History, on this island? how does that relate to Civilizations (within recorded History), like the Greeks, and/or Egyptians, while being further complicated by the changing political spheres from which order is found.

[supporttheunderdog]

The one thing I do NOT support is the devolution of any part of Cyprus to anyone outside of the Island so wind yer neck in on that one, bonny lass! .