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is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:19 pm

just a yes or a no will do.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Maximus » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:08 am

Happy new year nowdo
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:57 am

...it needs reform as a condition of entry.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:14 am

too late rw, it has been accepted and roc is in the eu already. the question is is it legal as far as eu law is concerned.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby boulio » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:43 pm

due to the events of 1974 i believe the 1960 constituion was altered for the ROC to be able to function.When the ROC asceded to the european union i believe it asceded with the changes that had to voted by the 15 member eu at the time in their local parliaments
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:07 pm

boulio wrote:due to the events of 1974 i believe the 1960 constituion was altered for the ROC to be able to function.When the ROC asceded to the european union i believe it asceded with the changes that had to voted by the 15 member eu at the time in their local parliaments


They have not changed any of the articles that needed the consent of both communities.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Maximus » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:14 pm

Lordo, for any country to accede into the European Union, it must adhere to certain principles and laws, be a signature to others and also close all the necessary chapters to be eligible for full membership.

So, as far as the EU is concerned, Cyprus has met all the qualification criteria and is a full member.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:12 pm

Maximus wrote:Lordo, for any country to accede into the European Union, it must adhere to certain principles and laws, be a signature to others and also close all the necessary chapters to be eligible for full membership.

So, as far as the EU is concerned, Cyprus has met all the qualification criteria and is a full member.

to be honest i dont think you realise what kind of a club the eu is.

there was only one change to the constitution and that was to increase the number of mps proportionately.

the question is did they even look at the constitution before joining and the answer must have been no. because if they did a tc living in the south would not have needed to take them to court regarding his rights to vote in the south for the elections, the eu court would not have agreed with him and fine the roc 3500 euroes for walking all over his true human rights. now the question remains how legal is the eu, judging by their acceptance of the 1960 constitution and the way it is implemented in the south.

i suspect the answer is they dont give a shit. so all those who say bbf is illegal and would not have been accepted in the eu i think you live in la la la land.
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:27 am

...naturally a link can be drawn to the corruption of the era and the founding of the EU, naturally to the corruption that blossumed at the same time in Greece. indeed, when Cyprus joined it had forces for it, and/or against the Turkish angst, in European affairs. but as a State, and as a net contributor to this Union, Cypriots retain their credibility as a People who place their value, not as Europeans, but as members of a larger Family, into the Rule of Law, and the betterment of Universal Principals.

...with all due respect, the Constitution does not work as it is. a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation is inviting, because, living in one at present is a real life experience that, as a young boy i lived, in a "mixed" (i spit at people who called us this) village. my past, your past, the past, is past. i will not hate those i loved, nor they me, just because we are called by others, "Turks" or "Greeks". perhaps it has more to do with the fact that niggers no longer hang from trees in the USA, that i find it repugnant the thought that you are not "Turkish" or "Turkish"(or "Greek) enough. i suppose if they did, such hatred would thrive to surely have consumed all life on this planet by now. but our lives are and were far more refined, demanding integration not just desgregation, toward ending (as it is today) the Problem. why not recognise the needs which are the same, which we, as Persons, corporate entities where we are One, exist? why not as Individuals therefore, as Cypriots, express this will. Bicommunal does not mean tearing the island in two. it means that there is One, and within this whole where all its Citizens are represented without distinction or discrimination as equal, they choose, by where they reside, to be as well, electors in National Assemblies. many Cypriot Constituencies can be sustained, with self-representation which promotes their distinctions, and provides the services they need in their daily lives; as with the Communal Chamber, Cyprus requires a Constituency which is Greek to exist to have a Cypriot State, so that there can exist other Constituencies with equal Rights, rather than recognition and respect of Minorities within what is by the overwhelming Majority, a Greek state.

Lordo, you should read my stuff carefully, if you dream as i dream of Constitutional Reform. and you should join me if you dare to ask, where is the Greek Constituency, if there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency?
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Re: is the 1960 constitution legal according to eu law

Postby Maximus » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:52 am

Lordo wrote: a tc living in the south would not have needed to take them to court regarding his rights to vote in the south for the elections, the eu court would not have agreed with him and fine the roc 3500 euroes for walking all over his true human rights.


can you please provide me with a link or some further information regarding this?

The republic is not trampling on anyone's human rights, rather the RoC has eligible citizens who have invited an illegal occupation to stay, on EU territory and want to double dip.
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