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[bill cobbett]

Questions...

Was the terrorist group TMT, under the thankfully late Rough Donktosh, concerned with one thing and one thing only, TAKSIM...???

From the mid-50s was it concerned with provocations, with carefully planned incidents, with preparations for Invasion, an Invasion that it hoped would lead to Partition...???

Was its encouragement for Self-Segregation, with such things as its Turk to Turk policy, with withdrawals in to Armed Enclaves, preparing for Invasion...???

Is the present day Illegal Regime known by some as "tncrtc" its current political face...???

[Lordo]

my dearest kantobullo, you are doing no favours to anybody. if you wish to understand why tcs moved into enclaves just have a look at one incident and how it ended with 5 villages moving into enclaves. Fikret a 22 year old shepherd boy minding his sheep in his own filed killed by a dali policemen and two other accomplices which let to the attack on the well and then the village which ended with all the villages running for cover.

this idea that tmt is responsible for the enclaves are just shit coming out of mouths of swine like you. if you dont believe a tc telling you what eoka was like perhaps you read what a gc child witnessed eoga do to her father with batons and 6 inch nails sticking out of them.

i did not realise the priest actually got school children to stone Savva Menicos to death and got them to piss on him too. You call yourselves civilized.


there comes a time when you have to stop talking crap and look at reality.

[Pyrpolizer]

Questions...

Was the terrorist group TMT, under the thankfully late Rough Donktosh, concerned with one thing and one thing only, TAKSIM...???

From the mid-50s was it concerned with provocations, with carefully planned incidents, with preparations for Invasion, an Invasion that it hoped would lead to Partition...???

Was its encouragement for Self-Segregation, with such things as its Turk to Turk policy, with withdrawals in to Armed Enclaves, preparing for Invasion...???

Is the present day Illegal Regime known by some as "tncrtc" its current political face...???

As long as you have an armed organization Bill there is NOTHING DIRTY they won't be in. The high ranking officials had an agenda of course, taksim was certainly the main objective by preparing the ground for Turkey to Invade. Remember TMT was directly controlled by the Turkish Army (MIT?). Lower members for such organizations are usually scum, but there are also refined people in who just believe to the "cause". Most atrocities are done by the scum class, and the illiterate ones. We 've had the example of the father of Birkibrisli in this forum who was a teacher. He was one of the first members of TMT. He was told it was for defensive purposes and for the "cause". Not much time passed and they gave him a pistol asking him to commit murder. He refused and they kidnapped BirKibrisli. It was a miracle how he eventually managed to save his life and abandon Cyprus overnight for Australia...
Still Kibrislis have high respect for this gang of murderers.
The same way we the Kypreoi have great respect for our own gang of murderers the Eokas i.e.

The "cause" of every armed organization may be noble, certainly there are noble and heroic persons in them, but the majority are ALWAYS scum and plain murderers.

[Lordo]

now here we agree my plastic friend. the scum were allowed to do their worst. but if i cannot find something to disagree with you it would not be right.

tmt went a head and did their worst but they were not recognised legal authority running the banana republic where as your eoga thugs were. even packard said that papadobollox told him that these people were untouchable and out of control. how nice of him to release them to the public. animals like that are caged but thats another story. they went around murdering innocent civillians as and when they liked with no consequences. that is why what eoga is a million times worse than tmt. they legalised murder.


now do assholes like you and educated ones at that appreciate this simple but very distinct difference between eoga and tmt. christs sake eoga liders were in legal government as ministers recognised by the world. and they are comparable like fuck.

now you see i did not say tmt did not kill anybody did i my little pyroplastic friend.

[bill cobbett]

Questions...

Was the terrorist group TMT, under the thankfully late Rough Donktosh, concerned with one thing and one thing only, TAKSIM...???

From the mid-50s was it concerned with provocations, with carefully planned incidents, with preparations for Invasion, an Invasion that it hoped would lead to Partition...???

Was its encouragement for Self-Segregation, with such things as its Turk to Turk policy, with withdrawals in to Armed Enclaves, preparing for Invasion...???

Is the present day Illegal Regime known by some as "tncrtc" its current political face...???

As long as you have an armed organization Bill there is NOTHING DIRTY they won't be in. The high ranking officials had an agenda of course, taksim was certainly the main objective by preparing the ground for Turkey to Invade. Remember TMT was directly controlled by the Turkish Army (MIT?). Lower members for such organizations are usually scum, but there are also refined people in who just believe to the "cause". Most atrocities are done by the scum class, and the illiterate ones. We 've had the example of the father of Birkibrisli in this forum who was a teacher. He was one of the first members of TMT. He was told it was for defensive purposes and for the "cause". Not much time passed and they gave him a pistol asking him to commit murder. He refused and they kidnapped BirKibrisli. It was a miracle how he eventually managed to save his life and abandon Cyprus overnight for Australia...
Still Kibrislis have high respect for this gang of murderers.
The same way we the Kypreoi have great respect for our own gang of murderers the Eokas i.e.

The "cause" of every armed organization may be noble, certainly there are noble and heroic persons in them, but the majority are ALWAYS scum and plain murderers.

Respect to you for some very honest plain speaking there Pyro... unlike those who do the dirty work of the fanatics to the present day like the hatred-spreading liars Bloobo and Kunteesh.

[Pyrpolizer]

now here we agree my plastic friend. the scum were allowed to do their worst. but if i cannot find something to disagree with you it would not be right.

tmt went a head and did their worst but they were not recognised legal authority running the banana republic where as your eoga thugs were. even packard said that papadobollox told him that these people were untouchable and out of control. how nice of him to release them to the public. animals like that are caged but thats another story. they went around murdering innocent civillians as and when they liked with no consequences. that is why what eoga is a million times worse than tmt. they legalised murder.


now do assholes like you and educated ones at that appreciate this simple but very distinct difference between eoga and tmt. christs sake eoga liders were in legal government as ministers recognised by the world. and they are comparable like fuck.

now you see i did not say tmt did not kill anybody did i my little pyroplastic friend.

I wouldn't expect any different from a Republic born after thousands of years of slavery. Don't forget the founder of TMT was Vice President wheras all Turkish Ministers were also TMTs, It is true almost all ministers were ex-Eokas. All high ranking "innocent" ducks though. The whole Europe needed 500 years just to establish Democracy out of Monarchy. Look at what happens now in Lybia, and Egypt.. and there we are talking for just some tribes of the same people.

Whatever way you look at it the situation in Cyprus was much much better than anywhere else in the world. We had atrocities that's for sure, however to what extend? Total number of dead Kibrislis within 14 years about 700 hundred total number of Kypreoi dead about the same. This is less than those killed in road accidents. The clashes occurred only in 1963 and 1967. From 1968 until 1974 there were hardly any deaths whereas from 1972-1974 including the period of the coup not even one Kibrisli was hurt.

And then we had the invasion. You don't know how many Kypreoi died then ,how many women were raped, how many went to Turkey never to be seen again, and many other details do you?

[Pyrpolizer]

The most striking AND RECENT example that resembles Cyprus is what happened just a few years ago in Rwanda (the country of the Ex UN SG ?)!
There we had the Tutsi and another tribe (I dont remember the name). 25-75%. The country was a colony of the Belgium. The Colonists used the 25% tribe favorably to have control, just like the British used the Kibrislis here.
When the Belgians left the other tribe almost wiped off the Tutsi I think they killed 4 million within only 1 months, limiting their percentage from 25 down to only 10%. Just out of revenge! There was no Enosis or taksimthere,just for revenge.
And the whole world was just staring!

NB. But as my German associates in the civilized EU used to tell me: Those are negros man, who cares, one negro more one negro less, who cares.

[Lordo]

they were the hutus

[bill cobbett]

Some more statements posed as questions...

Haven't we left EOKA behind us in the Free Areas...???

Whether that's left to honour and commemorate that movement or otherwise is a matter of personal deliberation for each of us; in any event aren't they left only as a historical foot-note to Cyprob...???

On the other hand aren't the TMT in the guise of the Illegal Regime still relevant, still ruling the roost in the "tncrtn"...???

Aren't the Rubbish Regime the political face of the still thriving, still controlling TMT still working towards their endgame of a near as dammit Two Countries Partition...???

Isn't the TMT legacy the only Lasting and Relevant Continuity from the mid-50's to the present day...???

[Pyrpolizer]

they were the hutus

Bravo yes, the Hutus and the Tutsi
4 million within a month! UN witnessed rivers of human blood flowing out of villages - unbelievable.