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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Maximus » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:29 pm

Repulse warrior, VP and the the majority of the Turkic rest have no integrity my friend. It seems that they only know how to cause problems and be argumentative and they do have an extensive track record of doing this. Imagine what a unified Cyprus would be like, with their so called partnership, without a drastic overhaul of their mentality. (they are much worse than the political class in the republic and that is saying a lot. It is them than need to seriously catch up.)

lets wake up and smell the coffee, they want nothing to do with Greek Cypriots but this still does not mean they can undermine Cyprus's sovereign integrity.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:19 pm

you are mistaken Maximus, unless of course you seek a Greek state and not a Cypriot State.

...think for a moment if Cyprus was free of the bias of having to represent itself as "Greek". with a Greek Constituency, it is not the State which must defend a "Greek" point of view, Greeks would have that Liberty, because there exists a State which defends their Rights, like the other Constituencies, equally.

argumentative perhaps, I am no "Greek" because i choose Cyprus first, although i am Greek and responsible enough to act accordingly.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Maximus » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:50 pm

I seek a free, democratic, modern, progressive, safe and law abiding state in Cyprus. For every citizen and resident.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:11 pm

...absolutely, so do i!

...what makes you think you can lump me in with vp and "Turks", are you "Greek"?

and if you are Cypriot, what is wrong with a Cypriot State, which recognises the need for its Citizens to represent themselves, as well, as Persons (Constituents)?
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Maximus » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:47 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...absolutely, so do i!

...what makes you think you can lump me in with vp and "Turks", are you "Greek"?

Do you have integrity? if so, you are not lumped in with VP and the "Turks", (mind, Lordo is also a bigger Turk, he is always showing off (threats) Turkeys arms and weaponry to his own so called Cypriot compatriots). The Brits label me as Greek, the Turks label me as Greek, the Turkish Cypriots label me as Greek, I can go on.......

and if you are Cypriot, what is wrong with a Cypriot State, which recognises the need for its Citizens to represent themselves, as well, as Persons (Constituents)?

A Cypriot state is what we are striving for and that excludes any minority which undermines the rule of law and the country's sovereign integrity.

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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:50 pm

cheers!
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:10 pm

As you can see respule its the GCs like Maxi that reject your calls for a BBF not the TCs who have committed to solution where there are 2 states with political equality. Its people like Maxi who will ensure division remains well into the future because they have been poisoned to hate anything Turkish.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:42 pm

...vp, if you are to say, two equal states in one Federal State, your position may be taken seriously.

...if you say, i love Cyprus, first, that would go a long way, too.

instead it sounds like and excuse. my side is not the "Greek" side as you say, Cypriots may be any one of many ethnicities, unlike you i support equality for all the Constituencies, you see people as "Turks", or not "Turkish" enough.

Cypriots are Individuals, and as such, fighting for their Freedom, there is a big difference between the Liberty you seek as a distinctive population within this set of People, and Freedom; you can be in a free Cyprus, in my opinion, as a Cypriot, and Liberty, as a Turkish Cypriot as well.

...have you been poisoned to hate anythng Greek, looks like it, perhaps you can be more clear.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:57 pm

repulse now you are being stupid what is BBF its two founding states under a federal umbrella as one country. For me to say I love Cyprus dont we have to be united because my Cyprus is different to yours, yours is the south and mine is the north. You also have to stop playing the Turk Greek thing because whatever you want to call it there are 2 sides to this dispute, your side and my side I know where I stand do you? you appear to back a "Cypriotism" which does not cover the whole island, plus your arch opposition to a BBF is not my side but your own, you have not gotten one GCs to back your viewpoint, ask yourself why.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:26 pm

...if you are what you say you are, you are old enough to have lived in Cyprus before it was "Greek", "Turkish", and for those who lived together (i spit on the word as it's used), "mixed".

you choose to see the world as "Turkish" or "not Turkish enough". playing with words is the obvious chatter you make.

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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.

...count them, three governing bodies.

unfortunately, so long as there are "Greeks" like you, the debate will continue to revolve around their Agenda, but to the rest of the world (except Turkey), Cypriots exist, Cyprus is as one island one People, all be it torn apart by a brutal and illegal occupation.

...2 sides to the dispute, indeed, "Greeks/Turks" vs Cypriots (who love this island rather than the mythic reality of their so called "motherlands").
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