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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Maximus » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:00 am

It is impossible to accept the events of 1974, the atrocities, ethnic cleansing and the land grab, etc. I do not see the republic of Cyprus budging an inch to accept a terrorist state within its borders Lordo.

so the status quo remains but I do not have much faith in the Turkish republic remaining intact either. it is more likely that Turkey will disintegrate to a smaller size before the republic of Cyprus recognizes the TTTC and you hope that Turkey doesn't lose her grip on the north of Cyprus in the process too.

Turkey has done too much too wrong to people in her neighborhood and generally the world by large and it will all come back to bite her hard in the end, it always does. that's where we get the saying from, what goes around comes around.

No hypocrite gets very far in life and everything will be alright for Cyprus in the end.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:56 am

Maximus wrote:It is impossible to accept the events of 1974, the atrocities, ethnic cleansing and the land grab, etc. I do not see the republic of Cyprus budging an inch to accept a terrorist state within its borders Lordo.

so the status quo remains but I do not have much faith in the Turkish republic remaining intact either. it is more likely that Turkey will disintegrate to a smaller size before the republic of Cyprus recognizes the TTTC and you hope that Turkey doesn't lose her grip on the north of Cyprus in the process too.

Turkey has done too much too wrong to people in her neighborhood and generally the world by large and it will all come back to bite her hard in the end, it always does. that's where we get the saying from, what goes around comes around.

No hypocrite gets very far in life and everything will be alright for Cyprus in the end.


Maxi Maxi you are a typical GC who has been brain washed into closing your eyes thinking that Turkey will just one day vanish into thin air, you need to look at the world stage Turkey is in with big boys you GCs are minnow in comparison, if she really wanted she could crush you in a matter of days, she has the might but no she tollerates you, shes doesnt even recognize you becuase you are nothing and can do nothing to effect her bigger plans ( dont harp on about the EU if Turkey was serious about the EU it would have entered 40 years ago, she has all she wants from the EU the rest is all show).

Where were in 1963 when TCs were losing their homes and disappearing never to be found, why werent you fighting to stop the eoka terriorists, why didnt you fight with TCs to stop enosis which meant the TCs death warrant.

Now that you have been beaten at your own game and enosis with Turkey has occured you shout and rant where were you in 1963? you hypocrite, looks like you are the ones who got bitten in the butt and no one not even the EU is helping you. :lol:
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:30 pm

Maximus wrote:It is impossible to accept the events of 1974, the atrocities, ethnic cleansing and the land grab, etc. I do not see the republic of Cyprus budging an inch to accept a terrorist state within its borders Lordo.

so the status quo remains but I do not have much faith in the Turkish republic remaining intact either. it is more likely that Turkey will disintegrate to a smaller size before the republic of Cyprus recognizes the TTTC and you hope that Turkey doesn't lose her grip on the north of Cyprus in the process too.

Turkey has done too much too wrong to people in her neighborhood and generally the world by large and it will all come back to bite her hard in the end, it always does. that's where we get the saying from, what goes around comes around.

No hypocrite gets very far in life and everything will be alright for Cyprus in the end.


but the question still remains was eoga a good force for self determination for all cypriots or not. that is the question. or is it too early to tell.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Maximus » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:37 pm

Viewpoint, I was not born until the 80's, and every time one of you assign a stereotypical stigma to me because of my views, you just sound like ignorant, racist imbecile's. I learnt about the problem Cyprus has from an objective point of view.

I know there are good Turkish Cypriots, I know there are good Turks and I am not affiliated with the church, elam, eoga etc, I am just the next guy observing and formulating an opinion based upon what I think is right and wrong, as a human being.

I listen to the rhetoric coming from the Turkish side, and you people sound like backward, terrorizing bullies. Turkey has a problem with all her neighbors. zero problems, its zero friends more like and this can go on for another 100 years, just like the Armenians have never forgotten the atrocities inflicted on them at the turn of the century, that turkey still denies.

Turkey does not know what peace is, she doesn't know how to resolve her problems, she knows how to steal, violate human rights, twist the truth through propaganda and time and make out that she is always the victim while flexing her respectively enormous military might!

Turks have such a low human development index and as a race, they have along way to go to catch up with the rest of humanity.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:04 pm

Maximus wrote:Viewpoint, I was not born until the 80's, and every time one of you assign a stereotypical stigma to me because of my views, you just sound like ignorant, racist imbecile's. I learnt about the problem Cyprus has from an objective point of view.

I know there are good Turkish Cypriots, I know there are good Turks and I am not affiliated with the church, elam, eoga etc, I am just the next guy observing and formulating an opinion based upon what I think is right and wrong, as a human being.

I listen to the rhetoric coming from the Turkish side, and you people sound like backward, terrorizing bullies. Turkey has a problem with all her neighbors. zero problems, its zero friends more like and this can go on for another 100 years, just like the Armenians have never forgotten the atrocities inflicted on them at the turn of the century, that turkey still denies.

Turkey does not know what peace is, she doesn't know how to resolve her problems, she knows how to steal, violate human rights, twist the truth through propaganda and time and make out that she is always the victim while flexing her respectively enormous military might!

Turks have such a low human development index and as a race, they have along way to go to catch up with the rest of humanity.


it makes what difference when you were born my friend. at least understand who did what. if you did you will soon realise that it is your mentality that cause the cyprus problem.

what was 1963 all about, enosis. how was it goinfg to be achieved by reducing the tcs to a minority. see where it got us. and there you are suggesting the tcs should be reduced to a minority status and if they dont like the decisions of the gcs theyt should leave for turkey.

well excuse me my friend but as you were only born in the 80s i am twice the cypriot you are and here you suggesting that i may be not cypriot enough. you see there is not just 2 choices there are 5. i will leave you and your friend with crappy shoes to work out the other 3. i can assure you your 2 choices have no chance have no chance of happening where as the others to are almost certain. sooner or later. dread to think the 5th choice which you will really dread. but we will leave that to another day.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:14 pm

...Lordo, Talat did not reciprocate for Turkish Cypriots, the wrongs that Christofias apologised for, is that telling?
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:22 pm

Maximus wrote:Viewpoint, I was not born until the 80's, and every time one of you assign a stereotypical stigma to me because of my views, you just sound like ignorant, racist imbecile's. I learnt about the problem Cyprus has from an objective point of view.

I know there are good Turkish Cypriots, I know there are good Turks and I am not affiliated with the church, elam, eoga etc, I am just the next guy observing and formulating an opinion based upon what I think is right and wrong, as a human being.

I listen to the rhetoric coming from the Turkish side, and you people sound like backward, terrorizing bullies. Turkey has a problem with all her neighbors. zero problems, its zero friends more like and this can go on for another 100 years, just like the Armenians have never forgotten the atrocities inflicted on them at the turn of the century, that turkey still denies.

Turkey does not know what peace is, she doesn't know how to resolve her problems, she knows how to steal, violate human rights, twist the truth through propaganda and time and make out that she is always the victim while flexing her respectively enormous military might!

Turks have such a low human development index and as a race, they have along way to go to catch up with the rest of humanity.


The viewpoint you have is racist and unrealistic, you have been brainwashed by the GC system to hate anything Turkish.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:51 pm

...coming from you vp, that's just sad.

can you say, i love Cyprus, first.

...will you say that there is a TC, as you say, system? why not stand-up for a Cypriot State, why not express this fact by demanding that Greeks as a Constituency found a system for their self-representation as Persons, too. is it because that as a "Turk" you have the opportunity to possess just like the "Greeks" you despair, hold the Agenda for all Cypriots, Greek and Turkish alike?

...quite frankly, by International Law, Turkish Cypriots are a minority, whether overwhelmingly or not. the great compromise offered by Turkey, and accepted by the Republic is a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation, something which is important to all Mankind, from which others can emulate. it does not mean the 'fait accompli' we have today, it does not mean that 'motherlands' have a right to invade to defend National interests, and blame cannot resolve the fact that new thinking is required, because for whatever reasons, the vast majority of Cypriots, who are Greek, cannot have a Greek state.

...you may say whatever you want, thank goodness, but i ask you again, join me in any one of my manifesto topics.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:06 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...coming from you vp, that's just sad.

can you say, i love Cyprus, first.

...will you say that there is a TC, as you say, system? why not stand-up for a Cypriot State, why not express this fact by demanding that Greeks as a Constituency found a system for their self-representation as Persons, too. is it because that as a "Turk" you have the opportunity to possess just like the "Greeks" you despair, hold the Agenda for all Cypriots, Greek and Turkish alike?

...quite frankly, by International Law, Turkish Cypriots are a minority, whether overwhelmingly or not. the great compromise offered by Turkey, and accepted by the Republic is a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation, something which is important to all Mankind, from which others can emulate. it does not mean the 'fait accompli' we have today, it does not mean that 'motherlands' have a right to invade to defend National interests, and blame cannot resolve the fact that new thinking is required, because for whatever reasons, the vast majority of Cypriots, who are Greek, cannot have a Greek state.

...you may say whatever you want, thank goodness, but i ask you again, join me in any one of my manifesto topics.


repulse thats easy "I Love North Cyprus" a Turkish Cypriot state...if you want a union you have to understand first that we are your equals and and that we accept a BBF then explain and persuade your side to accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.
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Re: was eoga a force for good working for self determination

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:14 pm

simple vp, seriously, join me in any one of my manifesto topics.
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