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[bill cobbett]

Can we start this thread under an appropriate title please rather than posting in the Eurovision one.

Starting with Pyro's research on the political equality...

OK this is the official UN political equality definition.
As for those wondering if VP is a TC that was clarified a long time ago that VP's parents are in fact genuine Kibrislis.

Thank you very much Pyro!

EFFECTIVE PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNMENT.

... and there has been at least one other UN Report by a UN Sec General which talks about equality not in terms of the simple numerical equality that the Rubbish Regime jumps on and runs with and which VP goes on and on and on about, but in terms of an equality of an effective say in government so that Mehmeti from the northern zone has an equal and effective say in the federal levels of government as Costas from the southern zone.

[Lordo]

oh you mean a bit like 63. fair enough. have it in the south as you wish. we allow you.

[bill cobbett]

Has someone dropped one again...???

[Kikapu]

oh you mean a bit like 63. fair enough. have it in the south as you wish. we allow you.

Didn't the TC leadership have an effective say in 1963, that they decided to walk out of the RoC government and they did, that even by your own admission, that even Inonu couldn't make them go back!

[Maximus]

The "Turkish Cypriots" must create a democratic, legitimate and meritocratic 'Cypriot' effigy of themselves first.

[Lordo]

oh you mean a bit like 63. fair enough. have it in the south as you wish. we allow you.

Didn't the TC leadership have an effective say in 1963, that they decided to walk out of the RoC government and they did, that even by your own admission, that even Inonu couldn't make them go back!

sometimes your ignorance is beyond belief. you must be deaf and blind not to see the obvious.

on the night of of 21st december 1963 not a single shot had been fired and yet the gc roc government decided to drive a coach and horses through the constitution by not only arming the police without the permission of the tc ministers but also arming civilians which left the tc police without arms.

now the first killing was that night by gc police and civilians armed by yorgadjis. following that night and what followed in the next few months do you really feel that the tc mps could have returned, because if you do you must be the most simple tc ever.

secondly you were right of what inonu said to kucuk, but why did you leave out what kucuk said to inonu. did he not say but they will kill us all.

not only arming the gc civilians but also bringing in 10000 greek soldiers to the island and you still think that it was possible to return to government. the time to return to government was in 1972. that was vetoed by your friendly bishop of meglomaniatitude. the rest is history. not you nor anybody else can turn back the clock. we move on from to day on. you stay where you are and turn clock back all you like but dont expect anybody to listen any time soon except your elam friends on this forum including the charluis elam boys. becasue they have a different agenda. they still dream of the day where they will enosise with their mother country. even though given todays conditions it would have been a nightmare, but they are as blind as you on the matter.

[Kikapu]

secondly you were right of what inonu said to kucuk, but why did you leave out what kucuk said to inonu. did he not say but they will kill us all.

Actually, Kücük's and Denktash's reply to Inönü was not what you wrote, but this, "we would rather come to Turkey than return back to the RoC"!

It tells me that they had a choice, and going back to the RoC's government was not one of them, because Taksim was their goal. Inönü knew that TCs outside the RoC's government would result of the what the TCs are facing today, isolation and for Turkey to babysit them at great cost to Turkey, and that was even without the foresight that the RoC would one day become an EU member and holding Turkey's future EU membership in her hands.

[Viewpoint]

Thank you for proving me right as the the effective say is what the GCs will never accept tahts why they reject BBF with political equality.

[Kikapu]

Thank you for proving me right as the the effective say is what the GCs will never accept tahts why they reject BBF with political equality.

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

[Viewpoint]

Thank you for proving me right as the the effective say is what the GCs will never accept tahts why they reject BBF with political equality.

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

God you are dumb what do you think the UN resolution is referring to when they clearly state there should be an effective say of the two communities, unlike your treacherous plan gave the GC community an open door to take 100% of the effective say into their own hands to manipulate and use the true democracy and human rights you peddle which yourself admitted can be done to pass laws to the detriment of the other community.