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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:As for the 1963 events here's some educational information for lordo who was employed by RoC to teach turkish imish and has no Union to join imish and all those lies and fartings that he spreads around
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Patrick-chp%203.html

Here's just a small quote from the very beginning

Both sides had militias ready and eager to strike at the slightest provocation


learn your history first elam boy. under which clause of the constitution were the gc police armed without the consent of the tc ministers. by the way your little page for got to mention that the gc police had civilians armed with them. in fact one of them was a famous football player recognised by the tcs.

please explain under which clause the gc had the right to arm civilians.

just posting old dog yogadjis's opinions does not wash your stench my friend. it still stinks to this day.

two unarmed tcs were murdered in cold blood. your hands have got blood at the root of the cyprus problem my friend. may your god forgive you and your kind.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:49 pm

Lordo wrote:Are you saying that kucuk did not tell inonu that if they go back they would be killed. one never knows why one say what they say. i can only guess that perhaps inonu did not believe what kucuk was telling him or that he wanted them killed and then use the excuse to invade. who knows we will never know.

but kindly answer the question. after the 22 dec 1963 murder of the zeki and cemaliye incident please tell us the earliest date which kucuk could have returned to the government. be my guest the floor is yours but dont kill us from laughter is all i ask.


Old man we are not interested of what happened 50 years ago when you were a TMT Malaka fighting with other Eoka Malaka, Instead of screwing women you were all masturbating :lol:

As for their retutning to the parliamant this is the Truth behind it:


Immediately after the collapse of the Zurich agreements in December 1963, the Turkish government under Prime Minister Inonu urged the Turkish Cypriots to return to the Republic of Cyprus. In a letter to Vice President Fazil Kucuk dated March 9, 1964, Ismet Inonu called upon him to seek an understanding with President Makarios and return to the government, with the Vice President and Ministers leading, and the Ministers, the Representatives and later, the civil servants, following.



Kucuk replied the next day, saying that this was impossible, citing a crisis of confidence and fear,and claiming that if he insisted, the Turkish Cypriot officials would resign their posts.



The Turkish government of the day was in conflict with the Turkish Army and desired the implementation of the Zurich agreements. That is why they forced Rauf Denktash to remain exiled in Turkey from 1964 until 1968. The Turkish Cypriot leadership and the paramilitary organisation TMT were under the influence of the army, which desired the division of Cyprus.



The Turkish Cypriots were unwilling to return to the Republic of Cyprus, but the Greek Cypriots were also unwilling to accept them.
As early as March 1964, the Greek Cypriot leadership had renounced independence, and set its sights on immediate union with Greece. Until this was achieved, the Greek Cypriots treated the Republic of Cyprus as a purely Greek state, unilaterally abolishing those provisions of the Constitution which secured the bicommunality of the state. The Turkish Cypriot response to this was to demand immediate implementation of the Constitution, which forbade union with any other country and secured the rights and privileges the Turkish Cypriots had achieved in 1960.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:57 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:As for the 1963 events here's some educational information for lordo who was employed by RoC to teach turkish imish and has no Union to join imish and all those lies and fartings that he spreads around
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Patrick-chp%203.html

Here's just a small quote from the very beginning

Both sides had militias ready and eager to strike at the slightest provocation


learn your history first elam boy. under which clause of the constitution were the gc police armed without the consent of the tc ministers. by the way your little page for got to mention that the gc police had civilians armed with them. in fact one of them was a famous football player recognised by the tcs.

please explain under which clause the gc had the right to arm civilians.

just posting old dog yogadjis's opinions does not wash your stench my friend. it still stinks to this day.

two unarmed tcs were murdered in cold blood. your hands have got blood at the root of the cyprus problem my friend. may your god forgive you and your kind.


This is just your own imagination and your own distorted truth as we have already witnessed. Show me written historical and INDEPENDENT evidence As for the written evidence I gave you that's not yiorkatzis's you idiot, read the footnote:

From Richard A. Patrick, Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict: 1963-1971 (Department of Geography, University of Waterloo, 1976), pp. 45-88.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:As for the 1963 events here's some educational information for lordo who was employed by RoC to teach turkish imish and has no Union to join imish and all those lies and fartings that he spreads around
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Patrick-chp%203.html

Here's just a small quote from the very beginning

Both sides had militias ready and eager to strike at the slightest provocation


learn your history first elam boy. under which clause of the constitution were the gc police armed without the consent of the tc ministers. by the way your little page for got to mention that the gc police had civilians armed with them. in fact one of them was a famous football player recognised by the tcs.

please explain under which clause the gc had the right to arm civilians.

just posting old dog yogadjis's opinions does not wash your stench my friend. it still stinks to this day.

two unarmed tcs were murdered in cold blood. your hands have got blood at the root of the cyprus problem my friend. may your god forgive you and your kind.


This is just your own imagination and your own distorted truth as we have already witnessed. Show me written historical and INDEPENDENT evidence As for the written evidence I gave you that's not yiorkatzis's you idiot, read the footnote:

From Richard A. Patrick, Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict: 1963-1971 (Department of Geography, University of Waterloo, 1976), pp. 45-88.

It seem our friend dick paddy had a bit of a fog obstructing his view. how many tcs particularly the injured ones that were alive were interview my firend, asshole.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Kikapu » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Thank you for proving me right as the the effective say is what the GCs will never accept tahts why they reject BBF with political equality.


Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?


God you are dumb what do you think the UN resolution is referring to when they clearly state there should be an effective say of the two communities, unlike your treacherous plan gave the GC community an open door to take 100% of the effective say into their own hands to manipulate and use the true democracy and human rights you peddle which yourself admitted can be done to pass laws to the detriment of the other community.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

As usual you don't know the difference between your ass from the hole in the ground when it comes to about my BBF plan or very much else for that matter. :lol:

What you need to remember is that the RoC is in the EU, therefore, any and all non democratic proposals or resolutions from the past are no longer viable.

In a True Federation every federal state has an equal say. It does not mean only once ethnic group run that state solely which it did not say in the above UNSC resolution. When referred to politically equal communities in a Federation, are they not talking about politically equal communities of those living in each state? Does it not mean that all those living in a state are considered to be a community of that state and that state has an equal say in the Federal government? Where does it say that ONLY one ethnic community politically represents that state in the Federal Government.? It does not. The Kikapu's BBF plan I gave you was based on True Democracy, even though strict TC/GC Rotating Presidency was not very Democratic and neither was it proposed by the UNSC resolutions, and don't expect it to be offered again by the GCs.


And you have no manners but we wont curse your parents.

Communities have to be defined and clarified throughout all communications communities refers to the TC and GC communities, if it is to be north and south states then the voting structure will have to be developed to ensure equal TC and Gc participation.


Viewpoint wrote:God you are dumb


Yes, lets not curse your parent. God knows they have been already punished enough by giving life to you! :D

Neither the north or the south state is meant to be homogeneous of any one ethnic community, and if the community in each state is going to be mixed regardless of their majority/minority numbers, then all those living in those states will be seen as "The Community" of that state and all those living in that state, "The Community", would then have equal say in running that state as well as equal say in the Federal government.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:48 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:As for the 1963 events here's some educational information for lordo who was employed by RoC to teach turkish imish and has no Union to join imish and all those lies and fartings that he spreads around
http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Patrick-chp%203.html

Here's just a small quote from the very beginning

Both sides had militias ready and eager to strike at the slightest provocation


learn your history first elam boy. under which clause of the constitution were the gc police armed without the consent of the tc ministers. by the way your little page for got to mention that the gc police had civilians armed with them. in fact one of them was a famous football player recognised by the tcs.

please explain under which clause the gc had the right to arm civilians.

just posting old dog yogadjis's opinions does not wash your stench my friend. it still stinks to this day.

two unarmed tcs were murdered in cold blood. your hands have got blood at the root of the cyprus problem my friend. may your god forgive you and your kind.


This is just your own imagination and your own distorted truth as we have already witnessed. Show me written historical and INDEPENDENT evidence As for the written evidence I gave you that's not yiorkatzis's you idiot, read the footnote:

From Richard A. Patrick, Political Geography and the Cyprus Conflict: 1963-1971 (Department of Geography, University of Waterloo, 1976), pp. 45-88.

It seem our friend dick paddy had a bit of a fog obstructing his view. how many tcs particularly the injured ones that were alive were interview my firend, asshole.


Go ask him pushto-yero. Or else give your your OWN independent written evidence.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:42 am

reh pushdo malaka kotsirozmenos shistosu ghamizmenos, there were 10 people in the car 2 murdered and 3 injured. there were people who came out after the shots and he could not find one witness saying what really happened.

i believe the line was crossed when the pervi gc policeman decided to search the tc ladies. now that is beyond belief. but than again you elam boys like to be rude at every opportunity.

you want evidence why dont tell us under which clause of the roc constitution your hero yrohadjis the murdering thug armed greek cypriot police and civilians. i suppose you want evidence that they were armed right. get stuffed asshole.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:11 am

Lordo wrote:reh pushdo malaka kotsirozmenos shistosu ghamizmenos, there were 10 people in the car 2 murdered and 3 injured. there were people who came out after the shots and he could not find one witness saying what really happened.

i believe the line was crossed when the pervi gc policeman decided to search the tc ladies. now that is beyond belief. but than again you elam boys like to be rude at every opportunity.

you want evidence why dont tell us under which clause of the roc constitution your hero yrohadjis the murdering thug armed greek cypriot police and civilians. i suppose you want evidence that they were armed right. get stuffed asshole.


Sure sure, the GC policeman was shot dead by a water pistol... And what followed WITHIN HOURS from that event, and the total armed control of the area from Nicosia to St hilarion mountain top, was achieved by TC housewives using their brooms. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:46 am

Oh yeah, you are on the right lines. Now you can find out how many gcs your eoga heros shot at that time. when you armed civilians without proper training thats what happens. but then again you knew that right. because you read all about it.

in the mean time while you are looking please find out why a 22 year old shepherd boy got killed on the 30th in dali. the family would appreciate it.
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Re: Equality of Effective Participation in Government

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:59 pm

Lordo wrote:Oh yeah, you are on the right lines. Now you can find out how many gcs your eoga heros shot at that time. when you armed civilians without proper training thats what happens. but then again you knew that right. because you read all about it.

in the mean time while you are looking please find out why a 22 year old shepherd boy got killed on the 30th in dali. the family would appreciate it.


Like i said both your TMTS and our Eokas make me sick to the bone, I don't admire nor excuse anyone, I think they were both paranoid criminals, and those of Cypriots who support either of the two and try to blame just one of the two, or point to the crimes of one of the two ONLY, are paranoid too. AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM :evil:
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