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[bigOz]

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20.12.2012 08:26
Minister of Foreign Affairs Ahmet Davutoglu, gave a conference in Finland went on an official visit.

Davutoglu, answering the questions after the speech of the participants, who spoke Cyprus Greek Cypriot Administration ' 's Ambassador to Helsinki Filippos Kritiotis , EU's Progress Report on Turkey 'criticized part of the studied parts of Turkey on Cyprus, and Turkey has failed to fulfill its commitments, asking whether they will continue with the attitude......

Davutoglu, "European leaders, 'the Turkish Cypriots of the Annan plan says yes to all isolation will be lifted. Greeks will have the same rights,"he said. despite all the commitments , despite the fact that the no vote in the Greek side, the Greek Cypriot side made a full member of the EU. Turkish Cypriots continue to be isolated" he said.

Ahmet Davutoglu, "if the Greek Cypriot side said yes to the Annan Plan in 2004, the full economic integration between Turkey and Cyprus would have benefited Greek Cypriots more than anyone else. You would not have today's bankrupt economy. Because you would have the use of Turkey's great economic potential at your disposal.You said 'no'. You made the choice, not us,'' he said.

WE SHALL NEVER BEG
Davutoglu said "Greeks believed saying "no" would weaken Turkey and they would beg for membership. I now compare our performance with the performance of the Greek and other countries. We shall never beg for a membership. If there is going to be an integration, it will have to be a fair one'' he said.

The paragraph refered to by Greek ambassador has been repeated at every EU meeting over the past 8 years '' had the Greek Cypriot side said "yes" in 2004, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on our agenda today."

link to topic: http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25407596/

[ZoC]

WE SHALL NEVER BEG
Davutoglu said "Greeks believed saying "no" would weaken Turkey and they would beg for membership. I now compare our performance with the performance of the Greek and other countries. We shall never beg for a membership. If there is going to be an integration, it will have to be a fair one'' he said.

The paragraph refered to by Greek ambassador has been repeated at every EU meeting over the past 8 years '' had the Greek Cypriot side said "yes" in 2004, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on our agenda today."

link to topic: http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25407596/

if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
if turnips were swords, i'd wear one by my side.
if ifs and ands were pots and pans,
there'd be no need for tinkers' hands.
if ifs and buts were candy and nuts
we'd all have a merry christmas.

[Jerry]

Trust the Turks to keep banging on about the Annan Plan, they are always more than happy to endorse illegal acts and proposals when it suits them. I will repeat this every time that bloody "plan" is mentioned

The Annan Plan was/is illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annan_Plan_for_Cyprus
Against the plan
"I consider the Annan plan to be fundamentally flawed. To put it in common language I consider that plan to be a non-starter. It is so incompatible with international law and international human rights norms that it is nothing less than shocking that the organisation would bend to political pressure and political interest on the part of my country of nationality [the USA] and Great Britain, in order to cater for the interests of a NATO partner.... I think it is not salvageable, quite honestly. I think it cannot be saved, and if it were saved I think it would be a major disservice not only to the Cypriot people but a disservice to international law; because everything that we at the UN have tried to build over 60 years, the norms of international law that have emerged in international treaties, in resolutions of the Security Council, would be weakened if not made ridiculous by an arrangement that essentially ignores them, makes them irrelevant or acts completely against the letter and spirit of those treaties and resolutions." Alfred de Zayas, a leading expert in the field of human rights, as well as a former high-ranking United Nations official.[63

[Maximus]

had the Greek Cypriot side said "yes" in 2004, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on our agenda today."

had the Turks not invaded and now if they just withdrew from Cyprus, where they have no right to continue to occupy it for the last 38 years in contravention to the geneva conventions and UN resolutions, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on your agenda.

many of these problems and the problems caused to Turkeys neighbours are directly related to Turkey's illegalities and attempts to perpetuate them and continue to create further illegalities.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What is a "trong response"?

Did you mean to say "wrong response"?

[bigOz]

had the Greek Cypriot side said "yes" in 2004, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on our agenda today."

had the Turks not invaded and now if they just withdrew from Cyprus, where they have no right to continue to occupy it for the last 38 years in contravention to the geneva conventions and UN resolutions, none of the topics you bring up now would have been on your agenda.

many of these problems and the problems caused to Turkeys neighbours are directly related to Turkey's illegalities and attempts to perpetuate them and continue to create further illegalities.

Had the Turks not invaded the island - YOU would have had NO Agenda of any kind! Because the majority of GCs who did not support union with Greece and EOKA B would have been DEAD MEAT!

Everyone in this forum is talking about "illegalities" perpetuated by Turkey and many other baseless accusations without demonstrating any examples to prove their claims (and lets not start about the "illegal invasion of Cyprus" taught to you by your false history books!).

I ASK YOU:
Who has and is helping the Palestinian cause against Israel? Greece, Cyprus or Turkey?
Who has and is helping the civilians most, in the Syrian conflict? Greece, Cyprus or Turkey?
Who helped the Kurdish refugees escaping Saddam's wrath most? Greece, Cyprus, or Turkey?
What saved the GCs from the clutches of the EOKA B fanatics (during 74) and helped the downfall of the military rule which brought democracy back to Greece?
Who is maintaining the economic well being of the Greek islands along close to Turkish coast - self admittedly ignored by the mainland and grateful for Turkey's support?

Answer the above first before talking to me about flugging "beggars"

I am sure "island girl" will translate the meaning of any suspicious looking words above

[ZoC]

Everyone in this forum is talking about "illegalities" perpetuated by Turkey and many other baseless accusations without demonstrating any examples to prove their claims (and lets not start about the "illegal invasion of Cyprus" taught to you by your false history books!).

un resolution 353, is not a 'baseless accustation' from a 'false history book', it is international law adopted by the security council in 1974, which turkey remains in breach of to this day.

now kindly stop posting garbage which may make you feel good, but, to any objective observer, makes you look like a total cretin.

[kurupetos]

I ASK YOU:
Who has and is helping the Palestinian cause against Israel? Greece, Cyprus or Turkey?
Who has and is helping the civilians most, in the Syrian conflict? Greece, Cyprus or Turkey?
Who helped the Kurdish refugees escaping Saddam's wrath most? Greece, Cyprus, or Turkey?
What saved the GCs from the clutches of the EOKA B fanatics (during 74) and helped the downfall of the military rule which brought democracy back to Greece?
Who is maintaining the economic well being of the Greek islands along close to Turkish coast - self admittedly ignored by the mainland and grateful for Turkey's support?

Since you are asking I assume you need answers, because it wasn't specifiied whether the above questions were rhetorical.

1. Cyprus & Greece have helped the Palestinians for many years, and without any actual benefits. Turkey has only offered 'help' recently for political reasons, after her relations with Israel have deteriorated.

2. Syria? Turkish soldiers raping Syrian women is not exactly help. http://www.presstv.com/detail/194419.html

3. Kurds? No comment.

4. The Turkish army only killed a few thousand GCs, raped a few hundred women, and 160,000 GCs became refugees because of the 'peace operation'. Thanks for all the 'help'.

5. Do you mean the fires the Turks start every summer in the nearby islands? 'Thanks' again. http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_3_26/12/2011_419985

[Maximus]

Everyone in this forum is talking about "illegalities" perpetuated by Turkey and many other baseless accusations without demonstrating any examples to prove their claims (and lets not start about the "illegal invasion of Cyprus" taught to you by your false history books!).

un resolution 353, is not a 'baseless accustation' from a 'false history book', it is international law adopted by the security council in 1974, which turkey remains in breach of to this day.

now kindly stop posting garbage which may make you feel good, but, to any objective observer, makes you look like a total cretin.

I suspect that it is illegal in Turkey to make any mention of it. Similarly as it is in the occupied areas. I imagine it is because it is a complete insult to their Turkishness.

Instead, blame others, stay ignorant and be wrong.

[ZoC]

Everyone in this forum is talking about "illegalities" perpetuated by Turkey and many other baseless accusations without demonstrating any examples to prove their claims (and lets not start about the "illegal invasion of Cyprus" taught to you by your false history books!).

un resolution 353, is not a 'baseless accustation' from a 'false history book', it is international law adopted by the security council in 1974, which turkey remains in breach of to this day.

now kindly stop posting garbage which may make you feel good, but, to any objective observer, makes you look like a total cretin.

I suspect that it is illegal in Turkey to make any mention of it. Similarly as it is in the occupied areas. I imagine it is because it is a complete insult to their Turkishness.

of course, turkey's accusations that something is 'illegal' are baseless; taught from a false history book. but bigoz has a small brain, and is unable to discern the difference.