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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:24 pm

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Pakistan's strong response to English Briton's at EU meeting... Its like this isn't it and it makes no sense to me, I cant recognize it. Ahmet Davutoglu must come across as a moron to EU ministers and officials at these meetings.


"Is this 'strategic depth,' or strategic blindness? The process that resulted in Turkey's becoming part of such a meaningless balance comes from a foreign minister whose incompotence is known by the entire world. You don't need deep knowledge to know that. You have to be a real idiot to do that." Kılıçdaroğlu said
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=338
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby potassium » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:45 pm

bigOz wrote:
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Now excuse me whilst I sell my house and land to a mainland Turk and fly off to somewhere in Europe... :roll:


So you refuse the EU aquis to come into full effect islandwide, but you are happy to go live elsewhere in Europe?

I get the logic now, bring the rest of your Turkish brethren in to the EU through the occupied areas of the Republic (EU territory) becuase Turkey cant qualify as a full member. Your a hypocrite.

No maximus! You don't get it at all :roll:

I am born and bred TC so was my grandfather and my great grandfather etc... I spent half my life and education in Europe. I love my country as much as any GC does. We have many things in common and we have the same temprament, sense of humour and tastes in food. In Europe GCs are best of my friends. I do not fear going shopping in South Cyprus. But my main problem stems from those thick headed, ill educated, GCs who write utter rubbish fuelled by their fanatic and racist feelings and think the whole world revolves around Cyprus :roll: Meanwhile we are both getting screwed very slowly but surely by you know who! They are so blind and stupid that their fanaticism is leading them into self destruction.

I am still not satisfied and no one has shown me a good reason why Annan plan would have been such a catastrophy for the GCs. What is it they have now that they would have lost if they accepted the plan. On the contrary, the North would have lost quite a bit - but we said "yes" all for the sake of having our say in our own country, in preference to being a state of Turkey in the long run. But what does our courageous GC comrades do down South "OHİ / NO / NYET /HAYIR". Because they are forever looking for a trap or a trick behind what the TCs say "yes" to. :(

well, we have an old Cypriot story: Two blind villagers sitting at the terrace one evening sharing a basketfull of grapes. All of a sudden one says to the other "hade re! stop stuffing the grapes 10 at a time into your mouth!". The other one amazed at this comment says "OK OK! But yıou are blind! How the hell you knew I was doing that?" - the response: "Because I am doing the same re bello!" :D


I love how you judge a small amount of people for the whole in general.

Annan plan would end up fair you say?
-The Annan plan subverted the property rights of the Greek Cypriots and other legal owners of property in Northen Cyprus.
- Most of the Turkish immigrants would get a legal citizenship which Turkey brought to the island for the Turkish ethnicity to overcome the Greek ethnicity.
-Turkish military would had the right to station the island any time.
-The cost would be 20b euros for reunification which would be paid by the Greek Cypriots.
-Turkey would absolve for all the human rights they violated during the invasion.

Do I need to continue?
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:56 pm

no dont we are liable to die of laughter.

annan did not give the right of turkish army to station soldiers in cyprus it was 1960 constitution and as 1974 proved it was wise.
turkey and her friends would have paid the compensation for the gcs and roc and her friends would have paid the costs of the tcs. rightly so as the roc is still as fanatic as eoga b was in 1974.
i am afraid it would also absolve the human rights abuses of the roc too but then again that would not be such bad thing to move on. the germans killed millions of russians and visa versa. was their human rights also violated. like hell.

people like you brought cyprus to its knees second time now. i just hope she can recover the second time round.

more darkness bullshit please we are in need of more mushrooms.
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:58 pm

Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots have to come clean and be sincere enough to fix/reverse the situation on the island.
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:00 pm

Maximus wrote:Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots have to come clean and be sincere enough to fix/reverse the situation on the island.


first wash your own dirty laundry before you request it of others. i can smell your stench from here.
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:07 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots have to come clean and be sincere enough to fix/reverse the situation on the island.


first wash your own dirty laundry before you request it of others. i can smell your stench from here.


This debate was over a while ago, welcome Lordo. I am sure you would rather prefer a negative reputation and non recognition so the Greeks in Cyprus do not have their human rights. You cant even leave them too it. why be so clingy and needy? why are you so desperate?
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:34 am

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bigOz wrote:I am born and bred TC so was my grandfather and my great grandfather etc...


Blah blah F blah, you are an ottoman remnant, left over from the previous invasion, here again causing the indigenous people more crap and demanding we hand over our country to you.
Bugger off to Europe, leave us peaceful people alone and take your stinking settlers with you.
Im sick of your constant crocodile tears, lies and utter BS.
Adios amigos, shut the door on your way out, cheers.


uncalled for, B25.

no better than the "Turks", it seems we all hate.

@bigOz, join me in anyone of my manifesto thingies; i agree, dialog is needed, Cyprus first.
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby bigOz » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:47 am

B25 and ZoC TAKE NOTICE! I do not even bother read your posts anymore for two reasons because both of you are ranting fanatic racists who clearly hate anything Turkish, and secondly I feel you lack the educational levels, intellect and life experience that will allow us to hold a decent argument. Your kind - I have learned to ignore long time ago. There is no cure for the likes of you. So please feel free to carry on with your gibberish - my backside is listening very intently as it would do to any other ranting idiot :lol:

Maximus! Do you really think the position of Pakistanis in UK and the TCs in Cyprus are the same :o When was the whole of Cyprus ever recognised as a GREEK island? What makes Greeks the masters and the Turks immigrants like Pakistanis in UK? The GCs themselves were settlers on the island as members of a sea faring nation, but the island was already occupied by many other civilisations prior to and during all that. The Ottomans ruled the island for over 300 years, and Greece for a longer period I believe! The Greeks were not the first or the last to settle on this island. In fact ancient history claims that settlers from Anatolia (Today's Turkey) had arrived on the island thousands of years before. So if it is the sheer population proportion that makes you claim Cyprus as a Greek island, then it is only a matter of another few decades before the Turkish population catches up - thanks to the current political situation and the influx of Turkish settlers. Unofficial number of Turks in TRNC at this time indicate around 350-400,000 Turks and that is leaving out the 30-40,000 odd soldiers. Will the island be a Turkish one if we outnumber you in another 4 decades?

How comical that some idiots in this forum can even quote from Wikipedia that the Annan plan was illegal and non-starter - correct me but ANNAN PLAN was a plan put forward by a UN secretary was it not! Who is being hypocritical? You must learn to live with the fact that the Greeks lost a war against a mighty enemy they poked hard, thanks to their faith in Greek mainland's military (in)capabilities. When you lose a war there is a price to pay and it does not change because the winners were Turks. Read into wars in world history and study the losses of the losers. When Ottomans technically lost the 1st World War, the British took over the whole island of Cyprus as their colony. Western Turkey was occupied by Greece, and many Turkish inhabited islands close to Turkish mainland were handed out to Greeks by the allies. Turkish occupied Trakya was given to Greece, similar faiths awaited Bosnian and Bulgarian Turks, and worse for Tatars who were driven from their land by the Russians - all that without a shot being fired! By those standards I think the GCs got off very lightly after the 1974 war...

What is your source for the Kurdish population in Turkey? Are you able to quote a census - if so please do! The hypocrisy reaches its peak when you liken the TCs in Cyprus to Pakistanis, but claim the Kurds who only numbered a few million until 50 years ago but increased in number due to influx from Syria and Iraq each time they were attacked by the military of those regimes. As long as there is no third world war to distract Turkey, there will never be any Kurdistan inside Turkish borders ever! The soldiers die but 5-6 times more terrorists die week or month. Turkey can produce 5 million soldiers, how many terrorists can Kurds produce? Turks die and their families cheer that their sons have become martyrs! They get wounded and ask to be sent back to the front! Only the ignorant will believe the Kurds wil ever win this so called terrorist "war" against Turks. But of course the Greek mentality is "your enemy is my ally - even if they are terrorists" - and you expect any mercy or constructive developments with Turkey :lol:

Just carry on begging Turkey to open up its airspace and ports for Cyprus shipping and see where it will get you. Meanwhile Cyprus Airways is disintegrating and your shipping companies are losing a fortune in trade! This time next year North Cyprus will probably have enough water coming from Turkey to turn the land into water logged rice fields of Vietnam if one so wishes to say. So you imprison the TCs, look down at them as Pakistani immigrants, do everything to prevent them from having an independent economy and expect favours from Turkey who in fact is more than happy with the de-facto situation. Just answer me this please: What harm has all the GC hullabaloos carried out in EU or UN has ever done to Turkish Economy or military strength over the past 4 decades? NONE WHATSOEVER! On the contrary it has helped them improve greatly. So who are you really fighting my fellow GC neighbours? What are your expectations?
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby bigOz » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:57 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
B25 wrote:
bigOz wrote:I am born and bred TC so was my grandfather and my great grandfather etc...


Blah blah F blah, you are an ottoman remnant, left over from the previous invasion, here again causing the indigenous people more crap and demanding we hand over our country to you.
Bugger off to Europe, leave us peaceful people alone and take your stinking settlers with you.
Im sick of your constant crocodile tears, lies and utter BS.
Adios amigos, shut the door on your way out, cheers.


uncalled for, B25.

no better than the "Turks", it seems we all hate.

@bigOz, join me in anyone of my manifesto thingies; i agree, dialog is needed, Cyprus first.

I most definitely will do that repulsivewarrior. But I shall read your eralier links over the weekend if you do not mind. Work and social commitments as you yourself may well be aware of, often prevents one from spending enough time on these never ending political arguments, but I will always support anyone who will say "Cyprus first" :)
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Re: Turkey's trong response to GC's at EU meeting...

Postby ZoC » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:14 am

bigOz wrote:B25 and ZoC TAKE NOTICE! I do not even bother read your posts anymore for two reasons because both of you are ranting fanatic racists who clearly hate anything Turkish, and secondly I feel you lack the educational levels, intellect and life experience that will allow us to hold a decent argument. Your kind - I have learned to ignore long time ago. There is no cure for the likes of you. So please feel free to carry on with your gibberish - my backside is listening very intently as it would do to any other ranting idiot :lol:


that's really ironic cos i always go out of my way to read your eccentric posts, bigoz, in fact, i sometimes read them again and again.

like re-runs of fawlty towers, i never tire of your farcical misunderstandings and misadventure. classic and hugely entertaining.
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