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Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:42 am

Are there any outstanding, important issues which need to be raised before the RoC hands over the EU Presidency to Ireland?
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Postby mouflonrouge » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:49 am

How about the small matter of 2 EU countries in partition. An anachronism against the EU itself.

Only fitting that one partitioned country which is illegally occupied by a non EU member handing over the EU Presidency to another EU country which is partitioned by another EU member. Ironic I would say. :roll:
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:00 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Are there any outstanding, important issues which need to be raised before the RoC hands over the EU Presidency to Ireland?


YES. why did the cypriot government not request an eu bailout when it needed to and instead tried to (unsuccessfully) side-step such a humiliation during its eu presidency - therefore putting the island's people in even more dire financial straits?



fiona mullins, an experienced economist and analyst with regional expertise in europe, the middle east and north africa, working for prestigious clients (economist intelligence unit, united nations, the financial mirror amongst many others), told AFP (the french news agency) that the cypriot government was:

"living hand to mouth and will keep on doing so until money comes from international creditors but there is still a risk of everything collapsing."

she added...

"the island's predicament was the result of the government delaying its request for an eu bailout in an abortive bid to avoid the embarrassment of an application during its tenure of the eu presidency until the end of the year."

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusin ... il-bailout
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Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Will you stop spreading the scaremongering that only serves the bankers' interests!

Since it's a GLOBAL financial crisis; it wasn't avoiding "embarrassment" which stopped them running for EU bailouts but a search for best options.
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:07 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Will you stop spreading the scaremongering that only serves the bankers' interests!


utter poppycock. this shit needs to be aired, not brushed under the carpet. incompetence, nastiness, idiocy and rousfeti in cyprus needs to be challenged and weeded out if the island is to see better days. and that extends way beyond the banking sector.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Since it's a GLOBAL financial crisis; it wasn't avoiding "embarrassment" which stopped them running for EU bailouts but a search for best options.


best option? u are delusional.

the worst option was to dither. the spineless option was to run to his russian mates. the deluded option was to pretend there was nothing wrong.

that's what christofias did. his leadership has been an unmitigated disaster.
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Postby B25 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:16 pm

ZoC wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Will you stop spreading the scaremongering that only serves the bankers' interests!


utter poppycock. this shit needs to be aired, not brushed under the carpet. incompetence, nastiness, idiocy and rousfeti in cyprus needs to be challenged and weeded out if the island is to see better days. and that extends way beyond the banking sector.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Since it's a GLOBAL financial crisis; it wasn't avoiding "embarrassment" which stopped them running for EU bailouts but a search for best options.


best option? u are delusional.

the worst option was to dither. the spineless option was to run to his russian mates. the deluded option was to pretend there was nothing wrong.

that's what christofias did. his leadership has been an unmitigated disaster.


Amen to that Zoc. I agree 110%.
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Postby mouflonrouge » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:32 pm

ZoC wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Will you stop spreading the scaremongering that only serves the bankers' interests!


utter poppycock. this shit needs to be aired, not brushed under the carpet. incompetence, nastiness, idiocy and rousfeti in cyprus needs to be challenged and weeded out if the island is to see better days. and that extends way beyond the banking sector.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Since it's a GLOBAL financial crisis; it wasn't avoiding "embarrassment" which stopped them running for EU bailouts but a search for best options.


best option? u are delusional.

the worst option was to dither. the spineless option was to run to his russian mates. the deluded option was to pretend there was nothing wrong.

that's what christofias did. his leadership has been an unmitigated disaster.


Fully agree with you! :)

By acknowledging our weaknesses and identifying our problems, we can then move forward and make a better Cyprus. The same needs to be done in Greece.

And believe me when I say that there are many problems we need to identify and fix.
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Re: Any other business ...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:06 pm

mouflonrouge wrote:How about the small matter of 2 EU countries in partition. An anachronism against the EU itself.

Only fitting that one partitioned country which is illegally occupied by a non EU member handing over the EU Presidency to another EU country which is partitioned by another EU member. Ironic I would say. :roll:


No Part of the Irish Repulic is illegally occupied or partioned by anyone - Northern Ireland was never a consituent part of the Irish Republic AT THE REQUEST OF THE OCCUPANTS OF NORTHERN IRELAND AT THE TIME
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:55 pm

Christofias and his government made several mistakes but it is unfair to blame the crisis in Cyprus on them.

The recent economic troubles of Cyprus are due to 2 factors, both directly related to the global economic crisis:

1. The exposure of our banks in Greece and the billions they lost there. This forced the state to bail them out to keep the banking sector from collapsing.

2. The bust that followed the property boom which meant that many people found themselves in debt which they are unable to pay back while the state stopped receiving the huge amount of taxes it had received from property sale taxes during the previous years.

I doubt that any other government would have managed any better since none of the others would have done anything to stop our Banks investing in Greece or prevent the property boom from going out of control.

Sure, maybe Christofias could have done some things better, but none of those things would have made a huge difference.

Unfortunately most of our politicians are not responsible and they say whatever they believe will attract more votes and this is why everybody else is trying to blame Christofias for all the problems of Cyprus. And with that I don't mean that AKEL is a responsible party. If AKEL was not the government they would have never agreed for a memorandum and they would be in the streets protesting now.
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Re: Any other business ...

Postby CBBB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:16 pm

Piratis wrote:Christofias and his government made several mistakes but it is unfair to blame the crisis in Cyprus on them.

The recent economic troubles of Cyprus are due to 2 factors, both directly related to the global economic crisis:

1. The exposure of our banks in Greece and the billions they lost there. This forced the state to bail them out to keep the banking sector from collapsing.

2. The bust that followed the property boom which meant that many people found themselves in debt which they are unable to pay back while the state stopped receiving the huge amount of taxes it had received from property sale taxes during the previous years.

I doubt that any other government would have managed any better since none of the others would have done anything to stop our Banks investing in Greece or prevent the property boom from going out of control.

Sure, maybe Christofias could have done some things better, but none of those things would have made a huge difference.

Unfortunately most of our politicians are not responsible and they say whatever they believe will attract more votes and this is why everybody else is trying to blame Christofias for all the problems of Cyprus. And with that I don't mean that AKEL is a responsible party. If AKEL was not the government they would have never agreed for a memorandum and they would be in the streets protesting now.


Come on, reh Piratis, we all know we were deep in the brown stuff, but why did this current lot of incompetent idiots not notice what was happening and take action earlier? The signs were there, and the opposition kept telling them, but no, they knew better!
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