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[repulsewarrior]

...so vp, between us, would you be able to say, "I love Cyprus, first. Greeks and Turks may have Constituencies where they sustain their own distinctions, but there is a Republic, and we are all Cypriots".

[bill cobbett]

See Pyro you have single handily explained to Maxi what a BBF is and he took to it, this is a person who was totally against it a few posts ago. Thats what I have been trying to explain on another thread the majority of GCs dont even know w what a BBF entails.

Let's see if i will ever manage to do the same with you dear VP, I mean make you understand what a BBF WITH THE RIGHT CONTENT is.
Last time I tried, you told me with absolute certainty that you beleive that both Denktash and Eroglu were working sincerely towards this target..
Also
a)Most of the times we come close to such a discussion you derail it with your standard cliche that goes along the lines "we better unite with Turkey than live as a minority together with the GCs" forgetting that even the BBF will account for the fact that you ARE a 1:5 minority.
b)You have not made a single comment to Bill's outline of BBF that I personally considered ideal. Should we translate it that you disagree with most of it

Yes, come along VP ... let us know whether you agree or disagree with it. Here it is for the 4th time...

A zonal arrangement on an 18:82 territory split with 2 semi-autonomous regions under a strong central government
No Secession, No Taksim, No Enosis
President and Vice-Pres run on a cross zone joint ticket (as per USA) elected by simple majority
Lower House 50:50
Upper House 18:82
No Blocking powers
Compliant with UN resolutions.
Compliant with EU Primary standards.
Treaty of Guarantee torn up within 5 years of Settlement Day
Freedom of Movement guaranteed.
Equal and effective participation in government for all
Fully respecting everyone's Property Rights
Fully respecting everyone's Home Rights that have been acquired since 74.
CarpetBuggers are dumped on the GB High Commission for resettling off the Island.
Illegal Settlers relocated at Turkey's expense off the Island save those born on CY or married to CYs.
GB makes over Sovereignty of the BAs to the New Republic and negotiates a lease arrangement on a much reduced area.

[Lordo]

See Pyro you have single handily explained to Maxi what a BBF is and he took to it, this is a person who was totally against it a few posts ago. Thats what I have been trying to explain on another thread the majority of GCs dont even know w what a BBF entails.

Let's see if i will ever manage to do the same with you dear VP, I mean make you understand what a BBF WITH THE RIGHT CONTENT is.
Last time I tried, you told me with absolute certainty that you beleive that both Denktash and Eroglu were working sincerely towards this target..
Also
a)Most of the times we come close to such a discussion you derail it with your standard cliche that goes along the lines "we better unite with Turkey than live as a minority together with the GCs" forgetting that even the BBF will account for the fact that you ARE a 1:5 minority.
b)You have not made a single comment to Bill's outline of BBF that I personally considered ideal. Should we translate it that you disagree with most of it

Yes, come along VP ... let us know whether you agree or disagree with it. Here it is for the 4th time...

A zonal arrangement on an 18:82 territory split with 2 semi-autonomous regions under a strong central government
No Secession, No Taksim, No Enosis
President and Vice-Pres run on a cross zone joint ticket (as per USA) elected by simple majority
Lower House 50:50
Upper House 18:82
No Blocking powers
Compliant with UN resolutions.
Compliant with EU Primary standards.
Treaty of Guarantee torn up within 5 years of Settlement Day
Freedom of Movement guaranteed.
Equal and effective participation in government for all
Fully respecting everyone's Property Rights
Fully respecting everyone's Home Rights that have been acquired since 74.
CarpetBuggers are dumped on the GB High Commission for resettling off the Island.
Illegal Settlers relocated at Turkey's expense off the Island save those born on CY or married to CYs.
GB makes over Sovereignty of the BAs to the New Republic and negotiates a lease arrangement on a much reduced area.

talk of all these zonal stuff does no good to a man no how.

[bill cobbett]

See Pyro you have single handily explained to Maxi what a BBF is and he took to it, this is a person who was totally against it a few posts ago. Thats what I have been trying to explain on another thread the majority of GCs dont even know w what a BBF entails.

Let's see if i will ever manage to do the same with you dear VP, I mean make you understand what a BBF WITH THE RIGHT CONTENT is.
Last time I tried, you told me with absolute certainty that you beleive that both Denktash and Eroglu were working sincerely towards this target..
Also
a)Most of the times we come close to such a discussion you derail it with your standard cliche that goes along the lines "we better unite with Turkey than live as a minority together with the GCs" forgetting that even the BBF will account for the fact that you ARE a 1:5 minority.
b)You have not made a single comment to Bill's outline of BBF that I personally considered ideal. Should we translate it that you disagree with most of it

Yes, come along VP ... let us know whether you agree or disagree with it. Here it is for the 4th time...

A zonal arrangement on an 18:82 territory split with 2 semi-autonomous regions under a strong central government
No Secession, No Taksim, No Enosis
President and Vice-Pres run on a cross zone joint ticket (as per USA) elected by simple majority
Lower House 50:50
Upper House 18:82
No Blocking powers
Compliant with UN resolutions.
Compliant with EU Primary standards.
Treaty of Guarantee torn up within 5 years of Settlement Day
Freedom of Movement guaranteed.
Equal and effective participation in government for all
Fully respecting everyone's Property Rights
Fully respecting everyone's Home Rights that have been acquired since 74.
CarpetBuggers are dumped on the GB High Commission for resettling off the Island.
Illegal Settlers relocated at Turkey's expense off the Island save those born on CY or married to CYs.
GB makes over Sovereignty of the BAs to the New Republic and negotiates a lease arrangement on a much reduced area.

talk of all these zonal stuff does no good to a man no how.

Now in English please, ... do you agree or not agree with the above...???

VP... you're staying unusually quiet.

[Pyrpolizer]

It's not the first time. We came close to such critical questions in the past. VP replied after A LOT OF PRESSURE after some days have passed. This made us suspect a lot of things about VP....

[Maximus]

we can use the most recent comment on the other thread : cyprus39702-20.html

We have to move forward without the GCs as the world is gradually understanding which side rejects solution after solution and demands open ended more like never ending negotiations purely for the sake of stupid refugees, we have use our opportunities to show the world that we deserve to be recognized.

[Viewpoint]

bills proposals are not acceptable, especially scraping of the guarantees with no back up.

[bill cobbett]

bills proposals are not acceptable, especially scraping of the guarantees with no back up.

So you're rejecting a BBF...???

[Kikapu]

bills proposals are not acceptable, especially scraping of the guarantees with no back up.

So you're rejecting a BBF...???

VP always rejects BBF with True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Law.

VP always welcomes BBF that is based on an Apartheid system, hence the AP.

[Maximus]

bills proposals are not acceptable, especially scraping of the guarantees with no back up.

So you're rejecting a BBF...???

VP always rejects BBF with True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Law.

VP always welcomes BBF that is based on an Apartheid system, hence the AP

It's the truth.