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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:03 pm

Kikapu wrote:There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.


no no no no nyet nyet nyet hayir hayir hiyar yok yok yok.

they should have charged tcs who could pay from the beginning.

nothing to do with it. have you not read any of the posts i have posted about this. where is your sense of social justice gone.

the problem is not that they should not charge at all but that they should charge tcs without checking their income where as gcs get income checks and are allowed free medication and medical treatment if they are below a certain level.

you see if this is not a racist policy, what is.

i thought you believed in true human rights but i see your shallowness has been exposed yet again.

clean your shoes will you i can smell them from here.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby B25 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:58 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:One thing is for sure:VP is the most endurable person I ve ever seen and can fight against 10 people at the same time, I really admire VP for that :wink:


Pyro, dunno what you are getting excited about, when you are a paid propagandist like VP, you do it for the money, it's her job.

Whatever you post, this propagandist will make some reply, any reply, she must get paid by the word, that I am sure.

Happy new year to you all the same.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:18 pm

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.


no no no no nyet nyet nyet hayir hayir hiyar yok yok yok.

they should have charged tcs who could pay from the beginning.

nothing to do with it. have you not read any of the posts i have posted about this. where is your sense of social justice gone.

the problem is not that they should not charge at all but that they should charge tcs without checking their income where as gcs get income checks and are allowed free medication and medical treatment if they are below a certain level.

you see if this is not a racist policy, what is.

i thought you believed in true human rights but i see your shallowness has been exposed yet again.

clean your shoes will you i can smell them from here.


You are talking a lot of rubbish as usual. :D

Why don't you address what I wrote above before you go on about Human Rights, which you know very little about, or that it is even practiced in the north. :roll:

RoC can only control what happens in the territory that is under her control and applies laws accordingly. Why should the RoC check how much any Cypriot earns or how much taxes they pay in wherever they live and work in order for them to qualify for healthcare benefits, if it's not in the areas under her control?
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:33 pm

You have been found out, you yourself admitted that your "true democracy and human rights" has loopholes which can be manipulated to the benefit of certain citizens.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.


no no no no nyet nyet nyet hayir hayir hiyar yok yok yok.

they should have charged tcs who could pay from the beginning.

nothing to do with it. have you not read any of the posts i have posted about this. where is your sense of social justice gone.

the problem is not that they should not charge at all but that they should charge tcs without checking their income where as gcs get income checks and are allowed free medication and medical treatment if they are below a certain level.

you see if this is not a racist policy, what is.

i thought you believed in true human rights but i see your shallowness has been exposed yet again.

clean your shoes will you i can smell them from here.


You are talking a lot of rubbish as usual. :D

Why don't you address what I wrote above before you go on about Human Rights, which you know very little about, or that it is even practiced in the north. :roll:

RoC can only control what happens in the territory that is under her control and applies laws accordingly. Why should the RoC check how much any Cypriot earns or how much taxes they pay in wherever they live and work in order for them to qualify for healthcare benefits, if it's not in the areas under her control?

becasue they roc citizens no matter which part of the island they reside at. will they do the same to a gc that live in karpaz. what is the matter with you man you got your blinkers on again.

lord give us patience. and we will not charge them anything honest.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Me Ed » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:27 pm

no social contract = no benefits.

Simples.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:47 pm

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.


no no no no nyet nyet nyet hayir hayir hiyar yok yok yok.

they should have charged tcs who could pay from the beginning.

nothing to do with it. have you not read any of the posts i have posted about this. where is your sense of social justice gone.

the problem is not that they should not charge at all but that they should charge tcs without checking their income where as gcs get income checks and are allowed free medication and medical treatment if they are below a certain level.

you see if this is not a racist policy, what is.

i thought you believed in true human rights but i see your shallowness has been exposed yet again.

clean your shoes will you i can smell them from here.


You are talking a lot of rubbish as usual. :D

Why don't you address what I wrote above before you go on about Human Rights, which you know very little about, or that it is even practiced in the north. :roll:

RoC can only control what happens in the territory that is under her control and applies laws accordingly. Why should the RoC check how much any Cypriot earns or how much taxes they pay in wherever they live and work in order for them to qualify for healthcare benefits, if it's not in the areas under her control?

becasue they roc citizens no matter which part of the island they reside at. will they do the same to a gc that live in karpaz. what is the matter with you man you got your blinkers on again.

lord give us patience. and we will not charge them anything honest.



Its simple to see how hypocritica they really are they claim the island is a whole and reep all the benefits when it suits them then cry wolf when they have to provide benefits that go with the claim, Lordo they can stick it all where the sun dont shine we have Turkey who do a much better job anyway.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Lordo » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:52 pm

Me Ed wrote:no social contract = no benefits.

Simples.


me ed engage your brain for a few minutes. if you refuse medical treatment to a person without checking their earning levels is in itself illegal no matter which way you look at it. these are roc citizens we are talking about. you cannot hold the authority over the whole island and then refuse them treatment. you are accepting the existance of the north as seperate entity. is that not what dengtas wanted all along. so you are gifting him the one thing he always wanted.

in any case has this now been passed through the banana republics legislator. i could do with a few more court cases to supplement my pension.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:05 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You have been found out, you yourself admitted that your "true democracy and human rights" has loopholes which can be manipulated to the benefit of certain citizens.


"Loopholes" effect all the citizens in any Democratic country and not just one ethnic group, so once again, you don't know anything about how Democracy works, but instead, you know very well how an apartheid system works, where NOT all citizens of that country are treated equal, aka, the Annan Plan 2004 or how things work in the north and Turkey.

Now, tell us why you were hiding the information that TCs need to pay for their medicine in the north, even if medical services they receive is free, but it is not free for everything. The fact that the TCs got 100% free for all their medical needs in the south and that now it will be stopped, was the main reason as to why you were bitching.
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Re: No more free health services to TCs of "trnc" in the RoC

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:14 pm

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.


no no no no nyet nyet nyet hayir hayir hiyar yok yok yok.

they should have charged tcs who could pay from the beginning.

nothing to do with it. have you not read any of the posts i have posted about this. where is your sense of social justice gone.

the problem is not that they should not charge at all but that they should charge tcs without checking their income where as gcs get income checks and are allowed free medication and medical treatment if they are below a certain level.

you see if this is not a racist policy, what is.

i thought you believed in true human rights but i see your shallowness has been exposed yet again.

clean your shoes will you i can smell them from here.


You are talking a lot of rubbish as usual. :D

Why don't you address what I wrote above before you go on about Human Rights, which you know very little about, or that it is even practiced in the north. :roll:

RoC can only control what happens in the territory that is under her control and applies laws accordingly. Why should the RoC check how much any Cypriot earns or how much taxes they pay in wherever they live and work in order for them to qualify for healthcare benefits, if it's not in the areas under her control?

becasue they roc citizens no matter which part of the island they reside at. will they do the same to a gc that live in karpaz. what is the matter with you man you got your blinkers on again.

lord give us patience. and we will not charge them anything honest.


will they do the same to a gc that live in karpaz


This is the only valid point you have made so far, to a point. If these GCs receive free medical services in the RoC while working and living in the north, then so should the TCs living and working in the north, otherwise you have no case.
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