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[Pyrpolizer]

With all due respect VP but do you really believe you prove Kikapu wrong??
Imo Kikapu tears you apart in debates,

Actually Pyro, VP has said the same thing in the past.

Im not putting anything forward for you to rip to shreds, fell into that trap to many times.

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Unfortunately each time VP tried to support something was proven wrong. Same happened with the "health cards" the other day it was proved to be for limited period and limited med care for traveling purposes.
Perhaps VP could become stronger and convince us by first finding hard evidence ... I don't know it's upto VP.
One thing is for sure:VP is the most endurable person I ve ever seen and can fight against 10 people at the same time, I really admire VP for that

[Lordo]

With all due respect VP but do you really believe you prove Kikapu wrong??
Imo Kikapu tears you apart in debates,

Actually Pyro, VP has said the same thing in the past.

Im not putting anything forward for you to rip to shreds, fell into that trap to many times.

cyprus24580-120.html#461955

Unfortunately each time VP tried to support something was proven wrong. Same happened with the "health cards" the other day it was proved to be for limited period and limited med care for traveling purposes.
Perhaps VP could become stronger and convince us by first finding hard evidence ... I don't know it's upto VP.
One thing is for sure:VP is the most endurable person I ve ever seen and can fight against 10 people at the same time, I really admire VP for that

you boys are a little it out of your depth here boys. may i suggest that you re-look at your ilk okul diploma. to refuse a tc something they are entitled to by law on account of their earning levels on the grounds that they refuse to recognise wages evidence from the northern authorities will make some very interesting cases for the future. unfortunately it will be the sick that suffer while they wait for the lawyers to earn their fat fees but that is not ironic really as the banana republic has been bent as a banana from the beginning trying to deny the tc population their rights under the constitution.

not to mention how many people are sick here so in the words of an average tc asssssssssikdir.

[Viewpoint]

The AP as supported by the UN EU USA and even Greece.

AP did not respect Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles. Their so called support was a conspiracy to trick Turkey in believing that they were supporting the AP which Turkey went along with it thinking they had Cyprus all for themselves. Their aim was to get the RoC into the EU without getting Turkey too upset too early before it had actually happened. Do you see any of the above supporting the AP since 2004, and has Turkey not gotten very upset that the RoC is an EU member? CASE CLOSED!

You like trying to close cases must give you some sort of buzz, but the bottom line is you are not above nor do you know better than the UN EU USA all of whom supported the AP.

So where have these actors been since 2004 to demand to bring the AP back during the last negotiations if they really supported the AP, and further more, why did they not insist before 2004 that unless both sides said "YES" to the AP in 2004, that the RoC would not be given a EU membership. Hell, they even did not keep their so called promises to lift the isolation of the north, add direct trade and investment. What more proof do you need that the above actors did and say everything they could to pacify Turkey to take the whole island away from Turkey's long term plans into the EU's arms, while they carried the RoC across the EU line to membership while Turkey and the "trnc" looked on helplessly. You think the Gas and Oil under the sea off the southern coast had anything to do with it? That's why this CASE has been CLOSED officially since 2004. It had been closed unofficially long before 2004 referendum of course. No wonder a day doesn't go by that Turkey doesn't bitch at the EU as to why the RoC was allowed to become a EU member even after saying OXI to the AP, because the RoC now has Turkey by it's feathers if it ever becomes serious about becoming an EU member.

The AP has and will always be the basis for negotiaitons and was extensively used during the last talks, you must be stupid ho no your are we all know that, if you think that the UN will scrap the AP alltogether and start from zero.

At last you have come round to what I have been telling you all along Turkey is not serious about the EU and is only playing to the terraces, so you GC EU leverage is non exsistent so all lieing to get the GCs into the has no real effect on the overall picture, the only laughable thing is that the GCs have no become the paid bitches of the EU.

[Viewpoint]

Ahhh my dear VP, you have a long way to go until you realize who is the common enemy. I don't consider you or lordo an enemy, just a debator in some form of thought competition, nothing more than that. Although I admit that i was too wrong in the past by messing my emotions up. People have thought of Bananiot the same things as you think of Kikapu.
Just relax, i am sure you can't do one day with out hearing from Kikapu, and if he ever goes away you will be thinking of him all the time.

Btw where is Bananiot?

Unfortunately I dont know where Bananiot is but I wish he would return, if more GCs were like him and we would never of had a Cyprus problem but unlike Kikapoo who is very dangerous and biased towards, he would sell us out at the blink of an eye, I have my suspicions about him and will never consider him a TC unless he starts on the rare occasion to support anything the TC put forward or start a thread in favor of the TCs concerns or fears. He hates anything Turkish yet his sister is married to a Turk lives in Turkey and has children by a Turk, anyone with such animosity and hate towards TC and Turks is a dangerous piece of work.

I enjoy proving Kikapoo wrong at every turn but if he disappeared tomorrow he would be forgotten in a very short amount of time approx 59 seconds.

With all due respect VP but do you really believe you prove Kikapu wrong??
Imo Kikapu tears you apart in debates,

With all due respect you only think that way because he is fighting your corner, he has not once proved me wrong or gotten anything right, he is our enemy and a nobody who will never see the north of Cyprus before he dies.

I only fight the corner for Cyprus and for all Cypriots, regardless of their ethnicity, as long as they are for Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles. All the rest can just fcuk off as far as I'm concerned..

Would this be the same "true democracy adn human rights" you yourself admitted is full of loopholes and can easily be manipulated to the detriment of certain citizens? eg free healthcare.

[Viewpoint]

With all due respect VP but do you really believe you prove Kikapu wrong??
Imo Kikapu tears you apart in debates,

Actually Pyro, VP has said the same thing in the past.

Im not putting anything forward for you to rip to shreds, fell into that trap to many times.

cyprus24580-120.html#461955

Unfortunately each time VP tried to support something was proven wrong. Same happened with the "health cards" the other day it was proved to be for limited period and limited med care for traveling purposes.
Perhaps VP could become stronger and convince us by first finding hard evidence ... I don't know it's upto VP.
One thing is for sure:VP is the most endurable person I ve ever seen and can fight against 10 people at the same time, I really admire VP for that

If you are genuine Pyro thank you. I would also like to add that I only go all out to prove something if I value the person I am debating with, for me Kikapoo is useless and worthless he will never accept anything you say even if you proved white is white he will try to convince you it is black because he is a fantatic and outright stupid, so theres no point.

[Kikapu]

I only fight the corner for Cyprus and for all Cypriots, regardless of their ethnicity, as long as they are for Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles. All the rest can just fcuk off as far as I'm concerned..

Would this be the same "true democracy adn human rights" you yourself admitted is full of loopholes and can easily be manipulated to the detriment of certain citizens? eg free healthcare.

I'm sorry that you do not fully comprehend the written English language and in what I write, otherwise you wouldn't make the foolish statement you made above.

Anyway Boys and Girls, I'm outer here for a Christmas break, so wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[Viewpoint]

I only fight the corner for Cyprus and for all Cypriots, regardless of their ethnicity, as long as they are for Democracy, Human Rights, International Law and the EU Principles. All the rest can just fcuk off as far as I'm concerned..

Would this be the same "true democracy adn human rights" you yourself admitted is full of loopholes and can easily be manipulated to the detriment of certain citizens? eg free healthcare.

I'm sorry that you do not fully comprehend the written English language and in what I write, otherwise you wouldn't make the foolish statement you made above.

Anyway Boys and Girls, I'm outer here for a Christmas break, so wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

That old language chestnut once again.

[Pyrpolizer]

If you are genuine Pyro thank you. I would also like to add that I only go all out to prove something if I value the person I am debating with, for me Kikapoo is useless and worthless he will never accept anything you say even if you proved white is white he will try to convince you it is black because he is a fantatic and outright stupid, so theres no point.

Of course I am genuine VP. I beleive what I said and there is no need to thank me. In fact i said exactly the same thing at least 2 more times in this forum Sept 2011 and January 2012 as a quick search shows me.
Look here:
cyprus36727-140.html?hilit=endurance#p703258

cyprus35573-60.html?hilit=endurance#p689237
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Merry Christmas Happy New Year to You Kikapu and to all other people in this forum. I will be leaving too, apologies for my short stay, but as you know I am on and off from here...

[Viewpoint]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you as well Pyro.

[Kikapu]

There was a reason as to why VP and Lordo would not tell us the truth as to why they were upset if the RoC's medical healthcare did no longer include TCs in the north or any other Cypriot who did not live in the RoC controlled areas, considering the fact, that the health care in the north was free. Well, as it turns out, the healthcare in the north is free, but not the cost of medication, regardless whether a patient is operated on and is an inpatient or an outpatient with a ingrown toenail, the patients must pay for the medication. From what I have been told, when it is an inpatient, family members are given prescriptions for them to get the medication needed by the patient at the hospital. Only the healthcare services are free and not the cost of the medicines. So, imagine if a TC who needs a cancer treatment with chemotherapy, the cost of 6 months of treatment would run into the thousands of Euros. That's what these two were hiding, the cost of medicine needed by the patients in the north are the reasons as to why the TCs would come to the south, to receive 100% cost free healthcare, and perhaps, even a better healthcare treatment also.