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[Kikapu]

you have lost the plot my friend. after 50 years the only way to sort out ownership percentages is to use current values. and guess what not only tcs will the whole of the north but will also have land left over in the south. now thats what i call chickens coming home to roost and not a rooster in sight.

I can see how you would arrive at such an conclusion. It has all to do with your primary level education.

I bet you were top of your class!

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

Forget about your so called "latest court decision setting precedence" malarkey on what land prices are worth in the north or the south.

The price of anything is worth what ever the buyer is willing to pay and what ever the seller is willing to accept, pure and simple. Courts do not set prices for anything. Free market does that.

[Pyrpolizer]

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

And you think they guy who accepted went to the occupied and asked for the current price of his property THERE?
If yes then you the you should go back to ilk okul immediately to repeat the 6th grade. There you will find your ROSTER malaka.

[Lordo]

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

And you think they guy who accepted went to the occupied and asked for the current price of his property THERE?
If yes then you the you should go back to ilk okul immediately to repeat the 6th grade. There you will find your ROSTER malaka.

its not me that decided, the judge did, are you blind and deaf. it was the echr judge. surely you trust their judgement. you should, do because judgement days is upon us.

[Pyrpolizer]

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

And you think they guy who accepted went to the occupied and asked for the current price of his property THERE?
If yes then you the you should go back to ilk okul immediately to repeat the 6th grade. There you will find your ROSTER malaka.

its not me that decided, the judge did, are you blind and deaf. it was the echr judge. surely you trust their judgement. you should, do because judgement days is upon us.

ILK OKULA SHIMDIYE

The ECHR did not decide on the prices, did not decide on market values, did not decide whether the exchange was fair or not. It decided that that as long as the 2 parties have agreed, the RoC was obliged to implement their agreement

ON A SIDE NOTE:
If I were you i would actually cry for this decision. do you know that by this decision TURKEY has exchanged EFKAV property? Do you know for what purposes should your EVKAV property be used? Damn, Turkey is selling the last remains of what you got and you think it was for your benefit?
Kikapu was right Turkey will even sell your mothers, your whole lot, and the bones of your dead ones to get out of this clear one day, you are just so blind that you can't see it...

[bill cobbett]

ILK OKULA SHIMDIYE

The ECHR did not decide on the prices, did not decide on market values, did not decide whether the exchange was fair or not. It decided that that as long as the 2 parties have agreed, the RoC was obliged to implement their agreement

ON A SIDE NOTE:
If I were you i would actually cry for this decision. do you know that by this decision TURKEY has exchanged EFKAV property? Do you know for what purposes should your EVKAV property be used? Damn, Turkey is selling the last remains of what you got and you think it was for your benefit?
Kikapu was right Turkey will even sell your mothers, your whole lot, and the bones of your dead ones to get out of this clear one day, you are just so blind that you can't see it...

Brrrr! .... it's gets even better ... this is the second time the Turkish Business that "runs" the Acapulco has made over money. Some years ago an unknown sum was paid to various members of the Rubbish Regime and even though the Regime had insisted it was Evkaf, they happily accepted it, as Pyro says... selling the unsellable "evkaf"...!!!

(This isn't the first time that the Rubbish Regime has sold what it had previously claimed to be unsellable Evkaf. The Kyrenia Dome was also claimed to be Evkaf before being "sold" to Turkish interests.)

... and the Turkish Business will at some time in the future have to pay the Republic some pretty massive capital gains tax, if ever the Republic decides to record the transfer in its records...

So the Turkish Business is effectively paying for the property three times over.

... and if we thought that wasn't brilliant enough there are three other considerations...

Firstly, to avoid the Rubbish Regime making over money, this "transfer" has been put across as a private arrangement between a seller and a buyer and so there is no obligation on the Republic to amend its ownership records in ways contrary to the law that freezes sales and purchases in the Occupied Areas.

Secondly, the Republic is becoming increasingly sceptical with low valuations declared by buyers and sellers of property throughout the Republic and can use its own assessments of property values to arrive at the extent of capital gains tax liability.

Thirdly and this is the really massive consideration, as this has been put across as a private arrangement, the Rubbish Regime/Turkey have paid nothing and set a precedent that in the future, present day "occupiers" will buy off rightful owners.

[Lordo]

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

And you think they guy who accepted went to the occupied and asked for the current price of his property THERE?
If yes then you the you should go back to ilk okul immediately to repeat the 6th grade. There you will find your ROSTER malaka.

its not me that decided, the judge did, are you blind and deaf. it was the echr judge. surely you trust their judgement. you should, do because judgement days is upon us.

ILK OKULA SHIMDIYE

The ECHR did not decide on the prices, did not decide on market values, did not decide whether the exchange was fair or not. It decided that that as long as the 2 parties have agreed, the RoC was obliged to implement their agreement

ON A SIDE NOTE:
If I were you i would actually cry for this decision. do you know that by this decision TURKEY has exchanged EFKAV property? Do you know for what purposes should your EVKAV property be used? Damn, Turkey is selling the last remains of what you got and you think it was for your benefit?
Kikapu was right Turkey will even sell your mothers, your whole lot, and the bones of your dead ones to get out of this clear one day, you are just so blind that you can't see it...

i think you are the one needs to go back to the primary school but this time keep away from the greek schools, stick with cypriot schools.

all tc properties all over the island are registered with the roc and is protected by the banana republic. terkey cant sell jack shit. anybody who buys from anybody else is dealing in stolen goods. i really think what you need is some hearing aid and a good set of specs.

whilst the terks are running away with your lands in the north the tc lands are in safe hands protected from their owners in the banana republic. it is the only case in the world where a government takes over her citizens properties to protect them from their owners on racial grounds. its not that different from infanticide of a mother to her child. we understand you love us to death and we even would appreciate it if you did not actually kill in the process. Love is good death is not.

the efkaf lands and hotels i was talking about is in baf limasol and larnaka. there are the lands of efkaf that have been developed but even thats ok and we will be nice on the day of reckoning. you will pay the rent for the last 50 years and we will not ask you ro knock them down. and then we will be friends no matter how ignorant you are. we wont mind honest.



but just to show you how friendly we are we will charge you normal rates when you will need translators to talk to the terks in the north of the border. markets rates and all that.

[Kikapu]

all tc properties all over the island are registered with the roc and is protected by the banana republic. terkey cant sell jack shit. anybody who buys from anybody else is dealing in stolen goods. i really think what you need is some hearing aid and a good set of specs.

Looks like Lordo is starting to panic over what use to be his property in the south, but more than likely have signed them over to Turkey in return receiving stolen GC property instead, just like what the majority of the TCs have done foolishly.

Technically speaking, all those TCs who willingly signed over their properties in the south to Turkey in return for stolen GC properties in the north, have given Turkey the right to do what ever Turkey wants with those properties, and when the time comes for Turkey to make the deal with the RoC, Turkey will need to sell 100% these TCs properties in order to pay off about 25% of the GC refugees, while the remaining 75% of the GC refugees get their land back, most falling within the south's state after the the states lines have been re-drawn and the rest of the GCs properties lying in the north's state. In the meantime, TCs who will need to vacate most of the GCs properties in order to return the properties back to the GCs, will not have their land in the south anymore, because they have signed their land over to Turkey for stolen goods, while Turkey has sold them to pay off the GCs. The TCs will be lucky if they get any compensation from Turkey at all. Perhaps they will be paid the land values at the time of them signing over their properties in 74 and beyond for stolen GC properties, which means to most, some 35+ years ago. What were the values of the TC properties in the south 35+ years ago? Far far less than what Turkey will sell them for in the future to settle the Cyprus problem.

All the pre 74 properties in the north are also registered in the RoC, therefore, any transactions in the north without the RoC involvement is considered to be as stolen goods, right Lordo?

[Viewpoint]

So the "RoC" will have to recognized the deals struck between the TCs and TRNC, what makes you think the TCs will not object or take the "RoC" to court for recognizing transactions struck with a state they do not recognized, the question to be asked is will the "RoC" recognize the TRNC agreements?

[Pyrpolizer]

i think you are the one needs to go back to the primary school but this time keep away from the greek schools, stick with cypriot schools.

all tc properties all over the island are registered with the roc and is protected by the banana republic. terkey cant sell jack shit. anybody who buys from anybody else is dealing in stolen goods. i really think what you need is some hearing aid and a good set of specs.

whilst the terks are running away with your lands in the north the tc lands are in safe hands protected from their owners in the banana republic. it is the only case in the world where a government takes over her citizens properties to protect them from their owners on racial grounds. its not that different from infanticide of a mother to her child. we understand you love us to death and we even would appreciate it if you did not actually kill in the process. Love is good death is not.

the efkaf lands and hotels i was talking about is in baf limasol and larnaka. there are the lands of efkaf that have been developed but even thats ok and we will be nice on the day of reckoning. you will pay the rent for the last 50 years and we will not ask you ro knock them down. and then we will be friends no matter how ignorant you are. we wont mind honest.



but just to show you how friendly we are we will charge you normal rates when you will need translators to talk to the terks in the north of the border. markets rates and all that.

I would admire your optimism if it weren't next to paranoia.
But then again all of you ex TMTs and Eokas are all the same. PARANOID

[Viewpoint]

Definitely Pyro, again your leaders tell you lies and paint us in a bad light to keep as I say stupid refugees like yourself thinking they want a solution by giving up what they have today and share recognition with the TCs.

Now you are moving the goal posts again. Initially you said they are feeding us with lies that we will return to before 1974 conditions.
If you have evidence for that, a speach or something then present it. I am telling you you are wrong.
Now you are saying that they are lying because they don't want to share power with you

If indeed our leaders are lying and we are indeed so stupid as you like to think, then why you smart ones don't prepare a complete solution plan and give to to us for voting?

What part of my post are you surprised at? why are saying I am changing the goal posts? maybe you were not well informed. You yourself admitted in previous that you were told that all refugees will return to their properties which you know is an outright lie.

If we prepared a plan with all your demands it would make difference as your leaders do not want a solution they do not want to share what they have the sole rights to, when will you open your eyes and see the reality before you?

At first you said our leaders are lying to us TODAY and we "stupid refugees" beleive them that we will go back to before 1974 conditions. I told you that was the expectation a FEW YEARS AFTER 1974, in the minds of Kypreoi but in the minds of the Kibrislis too. this was valid from 1974-1983 perhaps. And that was very natural and normal don't you think? NOT TODAY. So did you understand this first part? Of course you did!

You are correct and I still stand by what I said the majority of GCs believe they will get back the north everything will return to how it was pre 1974 we will knock down eg 10million dollar hotels so the land can be given back to its previous owner, your political and religious leaders still peddle the same crap, if your dead leader can take the stage and cry to influence people not to vote for the AP then fooling stupid GC refugees is far more easy.

Then all of a sudden you come back to me with new goal postsread above I am not going to repeat them -in short that our leaders are lying to us because they dont want to share power don't want a BBF just to cover their inability to comply with their promise (WHAT PROMISE LOL-TODAY THERE IS NO SUCH PROMISE) to return to before 1974 conditions

Not at all if you do not want to share something but want to fool an interested party eg refugees who is expecting something from forcing you to share all you have to do is lie that you want to share and blame the other side for not wanting to share eg not negotiating the AP was all a facade, open ended negotiations with no real commitment, no real offers of a solution enough to keep the lie alive and naive stupid refugees quite.

Why are you playing dumb regarding my proposal to prepare a plan (this does not mean to include all our demands) just a plan which is fair in your own eyes and present it directly to us the stupid refugees , just publish it don't give it to our leaders, make a fuss out of it, put it on the internet for voting by addiing our name and ID to it, give it to the UN and ask them to organize a voting among us... Answer the question if you can. I bet you can't

Why should I spend my time and energy preparing a plan when I know it will be shot down by the GCs because their real aim is not to share what they have total control over. Why dont you refugees start to resolve your property issues yourselves you have this option we dont by flooding the IPC in the north that would force the hand of the GC liars who have advised you not to apply because they will always keep you in the dark, they know how to manipulate the current situation to your detriment.