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[Viewpoint]

You stupidity and biased views has not allowed you to take into account that with the adjustment of the borders the number of GC refugees due compensation will drastically fall eg Maras 40.000.

[Kikapu]

You stupidity and biased views has not allowed you to take into account that with the adjustment of the borders the number of GC refugees due compensation will drastically fall eg Maras 40.000.

Forget about the 40,000 and talk about the 4:1 ratio of property ownership of the TCs and the GCs refugees favouring the GCs, because the 40,000 just about negates the TCs ownership in the south, which leaves about another 150,000 GCs to be compensated for one way or the other, and also talk about Turkey owning "legally" most TCs properties in the south.

[Lordo]

you have lost the plot my friend. after 50 years the only way to sort out ownership percentages is to use current values. and guess what not only tcs will the whole of the north but will also have land left over in the south. now thats what i call chickens coming home to roost and not a rooster in sight.

[Pyrpolizer]

Definitely Pyro, again your leaders tell you lies and paint us in a bad light to keep as I say stupid refugees like yourself thinking they want a solution by giving up what they have today and share recognition with the TCs.

Now you are moving the goal posts again. Initially you said they are feeding us with lies that we will return to before 1974 conditions.
If you have evidence for that, a speach or something then present it. I am telling you you are wrong.
Now you are saying that they are lying because they don't want to share power with you

If indeed our leaders are lying and we are indeed so stupid as you like to think, then why you smart ones don't prepare a complete solution plan and give to to us for voting?

[Kikapu]

Definitely Pyro, again your leaders tell you lies and paint us in a bad light to keep as I say stupid refugees like yourself thinking they want a solution by giving up what they have today and share recognition with the TCs.

Now you are moving the goal posts again. Initially you said they are feeding us with lies that we will return to before 1974 conditions.
If you have evidence for that, a speach or something then present it. I am telling you you are wrong.
Now you are saying that they are lying because they don't want to share power with you

If indeed our leaders are lying and we are indeed so stupid as you like to think, then why you smart ones don't prepare a complete solution plan and give to to us for voting?

Turkey gave you the AP in 2004, did they not? Were the GCs not stupid to turn it down?

[Kikapu]

you have lost the plot my friend. after 50 years the only way to sort out ownership percentages is to use current values. and guess what not only tcs will the whole of the north but will also have land left over in the south. now thats what i call chickens coming home to roost and not a rooster in sight.

I can see how you would arrive at such an conclusion. It has all to do with your primary level education.

I bet you were top of your class!

[Viewpoint]

You stupidity and biased views has not allowed you to take into account that with the adjustment of the borders the number of GC refugees due compensation will drastically fall eg Maras 40.000.

Forget about the 40,000 and talk about the 4:1 ratio of property ownership of the TCs and the GCs refugees favouring the GCs, because the 40,000 just about negates the TCs ownership in the south, which leaves about another 150,000 GCs to be compensated for one way or the other, and also talk about Turkey owning "legally" most TCs properties in the south.

Your total number of GC refugees is way out of line but when you consider that the AP allowed for over 70.000 refugees return the rest can easily be compensated as this figure will go further down as some GCs will get back property available in the TRNC, another factor which is far more important is the value of properties not the number of refugees, one TC can own property worth the property of 5 GC refugees and vice versa. Add to this finance from Turkey and the international community and hey presto problem solved.

[Viewpoint]

Definitely Pyro, again your leaders tell you lies and paint us in a bad light to keep as I say stupid refugees like yourself thinking they want a solution by giving up what they have today and share recognition with the TCs.

Now you are moving the goal posts again. Initially you said they are feeding us with lies that we will return to before 1974 conditions.
If you have evidence for that, a speach or something then present it. I am telling you you are wrong.
Now you are saying that they are lying because they don't want to share power with you

If indeed our leaders are lying and we are indeed so stupid as you like to think, then why you smart ones don't prepare a complete solution plan and give to to us for voting?

What part of my post are you surprised at? why are saying I am changing the goal posts? maybe you were not well informed. You yourself admitted in previous that you were told that all refugees will return to their properties which you know is an outright lie.

If we prepared a plan with all your demands it would make difference as your leaders do not want a solution they do not want to share what they have the sole rights to, when will you open your eyes and see the reality before you?

[Lordo]

you have lost the plot my friend. after 50 years the only way to sort out ownership percentages is to use current values. and guess what not only tcs will the whole of the north but will also have land left over in the south. now thats what i call chickens coming home to roost and not a rooster in sight.

I can see how you would arrive at such an conclusion. It has all to do with your primary level education.

I bet you were top of your class!

there is nothing wrong with my primary school education, look at the latest court decisions setting precedent and you will see the southern tc lands are between 5 to 10 times more valuable. thats what i call chickens coming home to roost. have you seen a rooster.

here it is i found it. enjoy it my friends. chickens are coming home to roost.

[Pyrpolizer]

Definitely Pyro, again your leaders tell you lies and paint us in a bad light to keep as I say stupid refugees like yourself thinking they want a solution by giving up what they have today and share recognition with the TCs.

Now you are moving the goal posts again. Initially you said they are feeding us with lies that we will return to before 1974 conditions.
If you have evidence for that, a speach or something then present it. I am telling you you are wrong.
Now you are saying that they are lying because they don't want to share power with you

If indeed our leaders are lying and we are indeed so stupid as you like to think, then why you smart ones don't prepare a complete solution plan and give to to us for voting?

What part of my post are you surprised at? why are saying I am changing the goal posts? maybe you were not well informed. You yourself admitted in previous that you were told that all refugees will return to their properties which you know is an outright lie.

If we prepared a plan with all your demands it would make difference as your leaders do not want a solution they do not want to share what they have the sole rights to, when will you open your eyes and see the reality before you?

At first you said our leaders are lying to us TODAY and we "stupid refugees" beleive them that we will go back to before 1974 conditions. I told you that was the expectation a FEW YEARS AFTER 1974, in the minds of Kypreoi but in the minds of the Kibrislis too. this was valid from 1974-1983 perhaps. And that was very natural and normal don't you think? NOT TODAY. So did you understand this first part? Of course you did!

Then all of a sudden you come back to me with new goal postsread above I am not going to repeat them -in short that our leaders are lying to us because they dont want to share power don't want a BBF just to cover their inability to comply with their promise (WHAT PROMISE LOL-TODAY THERE IS NO SUCH PROMISE) to return to before 1974 conditions

Why are you playing dumb regarding my proposal to prepare a plan (this does not mean to include all our demands) just a plan which is fair in your own eyes and present it directly to us the stupid refugees , just publish it don't give it to our leaders, make a fuss out of it, put it on the internet for voting by addiing our name and ID to it, give it to the UN and ask them to organize a voting among us... Answer the question if you can. I bet you can't