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[cyprusgrump]

I agree with GiG - even drinking the night before can cause problems the next day.

A friend of mine who used to frequent a particular pub on a regular basis, the customers of which were for some reason the target of two particular police officers, was stopped the next morning: the police mentioned that they knew she had been in that pub the night before, and asked her to blow in the machine.

She passed.

Mind you, she would have passed the night before too as she did not drink alcohol.....

Exactly!

Two policemen, acting on a tip off who should have been out catching criminals or people driving erratically for whatever reason....

What is it with people wanting to ban everything these days...?

maybe ban drinking and driving would be the best idea! If you are pissed while driving and you kill someone/ or maybe everyone who is in your car then yes i would call that criminal even murder!

If somebody does harm they should obviously be prosecuted to the full extent of the law...

But I can't agree with punishing everybody 'just in case'...

Shall we ban matches in case somebody starts a fire nd kills some people...?

[theodosia]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

[cyprusgrump]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

Exactly...

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

Instead of nanny state telling you what you can eat, drink or otherwise put in your body, how many safety devices you must have in your car, etc.... Encourage the individual to take control of their lives... on the understanding that they will be punished if they do harm...

[theodosia]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

Exactly...

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

Instead of nanny state telling you what you can eat, drink or otherwise put in your body, how many safety devices you must have in your car, etc.... Encourage the individual to take control of their lives... on the understanding that they will be punished if they do harm...

the correct response is to know what your limit is, but not everyone knows what that is and some people are irresponsible, for example younger drivers, or those who drink to much who don't give a dam. I agree with you about the nanny state though and we should all be free to decide what we eat, drink or how we want to live our lives.
now we have got over our opposing views I'm wondering if you are coming to the meeting on dec 18th? then we could argue some more!

[cyprusgrump]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

Exactly...

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

Instead of nanny state telling you what you can eat, drink or otherwise put in your body, how many safety devices you must have in your car, etc.... Encourage the individual to take control of their lives... on the understanding that they will be punished if they do harm...

the correct response is to know what your limit is, but not everyone knows what that is and some people are irresponsible, for example younger drivers, or those who drink to much who don't give a dam. I agree with you about the nanny state though and we should all be free to decide what we eat, drink or how we want to live our lives.
now we have got over our opposing views I'm wondering if you are coming to the meeting on dec 18th? then we could argue some more!

I'd love to (come to the meeting and argue with you) but Mrs. Cyprusgrump has booked a show on that day....

[theodosia]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

Exactly...

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

Instead of nanny state telling you what you can eat, drink or otherwise put in your body, how many safety devices you must have in your car, etc.... Encourage the individual to take control of their lives... on the understanding that they will be punished if they do harm...

the correct response is to know what your limit is, but not everyone knows what that is and some people are irresponsible, for example younger drivers, or those who drink to much who don't give a dam. I agree with you about the nanny state though and we should all be free to decide what we eat, drink or how we want to live our lives.
now we have got over our opposing views I'm wondering if you are coming to the meeting on dec 18th? then we could argue some more!

I'd love to (come to the meeting and argue with you) but Mrs. Cyprusgrump has booked a show on that day....

aww pity, maybe next time i will get to meet you both. enjoy the show.

[supporttheunderdog]

A simple message, drinking does not need to banned. but it would be awful if someone was killed because they were drunk while driving. I know people die in car accidents all the time without drinking, just at this time of year in the run up to the christmas celebrations it happens more often. It could be your loved one that dies or someone Else's loved one. its all very well for some to say " well i can drink a bottle of gin and still be able to drive" that's the thing when you have to much to drink you are not always aware of how drunk you are. then someone like me who does not drink could have a glass of wine and be totally smashed. its hard to find the correct cut off point for very individual height, weight, male and female could be very confusing as to what the right amount is.

Exactly...

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

Instead of nanny state telling you what you can eat, drink or otherwise put in your body, how many safety devices you must have in your car, etc.... Encourage the individual to take control of their lives... on the understanding that they will be punished if they do harm...

but punishment of the guilty means nothing to the dead and is too late for them, the injured and their families.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

"Personal responsibility" goes out of the window as soon as someone has had a drink which is WHY we need regulated responsibility in the form of limiting drinking and increased powers to the police to stop and breatherlyze whenever and whomsoever they think they should!

[Get Real!]

But I can't agree with punishing everybody 'just in case'...

Good point Grumpy!

[Get Real!]

The correct response is to encourage personal responsibility...

"Personal responsibility" goes out of the window as soon as someone has had a drink which is WHY we need regulated responsibility in the form of limiting drinking and increased powers to the police to stop and breatherlyze whenever and whomsoever they think they should!

You missed Grumpy's point altogether!

Given that everyone reacts to alcohol differently then a black & white DUI law doesn’t really serve justice.