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[Lordo]

my lovely eagle kugufkiaos out there, about a small matter of law which was pending, has it been ruled upon. any help wil be appreciated. thanks in advance.

A complaint was submitted to the Equality Body claiming that the provisions of the Cyprus/ property law 49/1970 are discriminatory against Turkish-Cypriots on 20.01.2008

notice this law was enacted in 1970. now what kinds of discrimination is there in it that the ombudsman are still looking at it in 2010. how fast is this justice system or is it on reverse gear.

what is the property law 49.

[Me Ed]

has anybody been able to expalin how such racism can exist in cyprus under true human rights.

where is my friend kikapu to explain it. i have now asked him two questions and he refused to answer both.

racism and enosis - still waiting.

Looks like it's for your own protection:

PEO had a membership from all ethnic groups in Cyprus. In 1958 the Turkish Cypriot nationalistic organisation TMT launched a terror campaign against Turkish Cypriot members of PEO, killing the journalist Fazıl Önder and attempting to kill the head of PEO's Turkish bureau, Ahmet Sadi. Following those events, most Turkish Cypriots left the union, and PEO's members since then have primarily been Greek Cypriots. The PEO is affiliated with the World Federation of Trade Unions.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A0%CE%95%CE%9F

is that the best you can come up with me ed. i am racists for your own good or was it you made me do it like mavroyerimobellogurobedo says. has life not changed since 1958 that tcs need the protection of being discriminated for their own safety. plucking fell.

bloody hell what ever next.

somebody come with at least a reasonable excuse.

Lordo,

My response was tongue in cheek, because when I ask TCs about the Cyprus problem I don't get any constructive solutions, but a "back in 1963" history lesson according to the TCs...

So for once be sincere please.

Have you actually put in a request for membership of any RoC union?

If so, please share your experience with us, providing a redacted letter of refusal to substantiate any claims of racism you may have.

I await your proof.

[Pyrpolizer]

Quoting from the memorandum of association of OELMEK article 6:
http://www.oelmek.com.cy/page.php?&lng=GR&id=34
Any person of Greek Nationality (*) or ANY OTHER NATIONALITY can become a member of the union if s/he is either employed on a permanent or trial basis, or on a contract basis for at least 3 months, at the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus...

Your Cypriot pleasanties are much much nicer than those of (who was that Lurijina dirty language guy?)
But I am afraid you got your information wrong on the subject matter..

NB.I am not sure whether the word "'ethnikotita" should be translated as Nationality (*) or Ethnicity

[Lordo]

Quoting from the memorandum of association of OELMEK article 6:
http://www.oelmek.com.cy/page.php?&lng=GR&id=34
Any person of Greek Nationality (*) or ANY OTHER NATIONALITY can become a member of the union if s/he is either employed on a permanent or trial basis, or on a contract basis for at least 3 months, at the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus...

Your Cypriot pleasanties are much much nicer than those of (who was that Lurijina dirty language guy?)
But I am afraid you got your information wrong on the subject matter..

NB.I am not sure whether the word "'ethnikotita" should be translated as Nationality (*) or Ethnicity

you see, there in lies the problem which you seem to be oblivious to my friend. the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus does not employ tc teachers for tc children. the tc teachers are employed via the presidents office for some reason. since when has the education authority has absolute power as to who joins a union. in the eu any teacher no matter who employed by is allowed to join a union of their choice. but do not worry their refusal is in the hands of the eu and is being looked at. i suspect they will react to this one they reacted to the rest of the directives especially now that there is an economic crisis and toilet paper is in short supply.

a bit of information for my friend me ed.
ring them up and ask them how many tc teacher members do they have. and secondly did they refuse a tc teacher on the grounds that they were not employed by ministry of education.

but i hear deafening sounds from my charlui friends, what on earth is greek secondary schools of education doing in cyprus. why is it not cypriot secondary school of education. i get a feeling the ministry is till being run by miss eoga or has she gone.

[Pyrpolizer]

Quoting from the memorandum of association of OELMEK article 6:
http://www.oelmek.com.cy/page.php?&lng=GR&id=34
Any person of Greek Nationality (*) or ANY OTHER NATIONALITY can become a member of the union if s/he is either employed on a permanent or trial basis, or on a contract basis for at least 3 months, at the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus...

Your Cypriot pleasanties are much much nicer than those of (who was that Lurijina dirty language guy?)
But I am afraid you got your information wrong on the subject matter..

NB.I am not sure whether the word "'ethnikotita" should be translated as Nationality (*) or Ethnicity

you see, there in lies the problem which you seem to be oblivious to my friend. the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus does not employ tc teachers for tc children. the tc teachers are employed via the presidents office for some reason. since when has the education authority has absolute power as to who joins a union. in the eu any teacher no matter who employed by is allowed to join a union of their choice. but do not worry their refusal is in the hands of the eu and is being looked at. i suspect they will react to this one they reacted to the rest of the directives especially now that there is an economic crisis and toilet paper is in short supply.

a bit of information for my friend me ed.
ring them up and ask them how many tc teacher members do they have. and secondly did they refuse a tc teacher on the grounds that they were not employed by ministry of education.

but i hear deafening sounds from my charlui friends, what on earth is greek secondary schools of education doing in cyprus. why is it not cypriot secondary school of education. i get a feeling the ministry is till being run by miss eoga or has she gone.

The constitution itself distinguishes the people of Cyprus into 2 communities Greek and Turkish and does the same for their education.
So it was only natural to have teachers Unions representing those teachers, one of them being OELMEK.
Bear in mind that that each Union represents a specific cast of teachers and OELMEK itself represents those who work at the Greek Secondary schools. The important thing that you missed is that OELMEK does NOT exclude teachers based on ETHNICITY. It does represent even Spanish or Italian or Russian teachers teaching at the Greek secondary schools.

The fact that the Presidents office employs TCs to teach (not only Turkish but all courses) to TC children living in the free areas is just a totally different issue,having to do with the welfare of all the people living in the free areas of the Republic, and for your information the same applies to Arabic children and to Russian ones too.

If you one of those teachers then Insisting to join OELMEK that cannot FACTUALLY protect your interests is absurd to say the least, and certainly the Union to member relation is a 2 way road. You might want to be stupid and want to become a member to a union that cannot protect your interests but this doesn't mean the Union has to become equally stupid and accept your membership!

I am sure the same is valid everywhere in the EU, you said that you as a teacher can join any teachers Union you like... Well, try joining the union of Teachers in Italy while you are a teacher in England and tell me if they accepted you or not.

[kurupetos]

[Lordo]

Quoting from the memorandum of association of OELMEK article 6:
http://www.oelmek.com.cy/page.php?&lng=GR&id=34
Any person of Greek Nationality (*) or ANY OTHER NATIONALITY can become a member of the union if s/he is either employed on a permanent or trial basis, or on a contract basis for at least 3 months, at the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus...

Your Cypriot pleasanties are much much nicer than those of (who was that Lurijina dirty language guy?)
But I am afraid you got your information wrong on the subject matter..

NB.I am not sure whether the word "'ethnikotita" should be translated as Nationality (*) or Ethnicity

you see, there in lies the problem which you seem to be oblivious to my friend. the Greek secondary schools of Education or at the Paedacogic Institute of Cyprus does not employ tc teachers for tc children. the tc teachers are employed via the presidents office for some reason. since when has the education authority has absolute power as to who joins a union. in the eu any teacher no matter who employed by is allowed to join a union of their choice. but do not worry their refusal is in the hands of the eu and is being looked at. i suspect they will react to this one they reacted to the rest of the directives especially now that there is an economic crisis and toilet paper is in short supply.

a bit of information for my friend me ed.
ring them up and ask them how many tc teacher members do they have. and secondly did they refuse a tc teacher on the grounds that they were not employed by ministry of education.

but i hear deafening sounds from my charlui friends, what on earth is greek secondary schools of education doing in cyprus. why is it not cypriot secondary school of education. i get a feeling the ministry is till being run by miss eoga or has she gone.

The constitution itself distinguishes the people of Cyprus into 2 communities Greek and Turkish and does the same for their education.
So it was only natural to have teachers Unions representing those teachers, one of them being OELMEK.
Bear in mind that that each Union represents a specific cast of teachers and OELMEK itself represents those who work at the Greek Secondary schools. The important thing that you missed is that OELMEK does NOT exclude teachers based on ETHNICITY. It does represent even Spanish or Italian or Russian teachers teaching at the Greek secondary schools.

The fact that the Presidents office employs TCs to teach (not only Turkish but all courses) to TC children living in the free areas is just a totally different issue,having to do with the welfare of all the people living in the free areas of the Republic, and for your information the same applies to Arabic children and to Russian ones too.

If you one of those teachers then Insisting to join OELMEK that cannot FACTUALLY protect your interests is absurd to say the least, and certainly the Union to member relation is a 2 way road. You might want to be stupid and want to become a member to a union that cannot protect your interests but this doesn't mean the Union has to become equally stupid and accept your membership!

I am sure the same is valid everywhere in the EU, you said that you as a teacher can join any teachers Union you like... Well, try joining the union of Teachers in Italy while you are a teacher in England and tell me if they accepted you or not.

gavolon mavro laoman.

i am a cypriot with an eu citizenship working in the roc being paid by the roc . now which bit do you and your friend has difficultly understanding. what has being in a different country got to do with it.

i suspect you live down under and too much blood i mean amber nector going down your 3 cell brain. but thinking about you cant be from this planet more likely to be from uranus.

enjoy your day my friends.

[Pyrpolizer]

Now you are becoming paranoidal bre gardash. In the RoC there are teachers being paid by the RoC to teach dressmaking/tailoring, flower arrangement, Judo-Karate, house repairs, pottery making, whathave you. Not even one is a member of OELMEK. Each Union has a specific kind of members, for example those working at the Cyprus Telecommunications Authority (CYTA) have their own Union and those who are working at say "primetel" which is another Telephone company cannot join although most of them do exactly the same job as those of CYTA. It's the same everywhere in the World.

Now you may say that it is unfair for you not to be able to join OELMEK, however in a democratic country you always have other choices. For example you may try joining PASYDY (Pancyprian Union of Public Servants) or the other 2 large Unions PEO (if you are a leftist) or SEK (if you are a rightist).

If I were you I wouldn't join anyone Knowing that
a)there are not many people like me for the Union to care for, and stand by me protecting my interests
b)I would have to pay a monthly fee for nothing.

[Lordo]

Now you are becoming paranoidal bre gardash. In the RoC there are teachers being paid by the RoC to teach dressmaking/tailoring, flower arrangement, Judo-Karate, house repairs, pottery making, whathave you. Not even one is a member of OELMEK. Each Union has a specific kind of members, for example those working at the Cyprus Telecommunications Authority (CYTA) have their own Union and those who are working at say "primetel" which is another Telephone company cannot join although most of them do exactly the same job as those of CYTA. It's the same everywhere in the World.

Now you may say that it is unfair for you not to be able to join OELMEK, however in a democratic country you always have other choices. For example you may try joining PASYDY (Pancyprian Union of Public Servants) or the other 2 large Unions PEO (if you are a leftist) or SEK (if you are a rightist).

If I were you I wouldn't join anyone Knowing that
a)there are not many people like me for the Union to care for, and stand by me protecting my interests
b)I would have to pay a monthly fee for nothing.

surely not. to be paranoidal you have to be gc as it is a greek word.

i am not asking to join a political party. this is a union and racism in an organisation which calls itself a union which is in the business of looking after workers rights is criminal according to the eu laws. and the government that encourages it or turns a blind eye to is is equally liable. it will come back from eu with a decision and then the government and the union will be taken to court for causing paranoia in tc . because of this i may never be able to work again. it is driving me to depression every five minutes. but for liberal people on this forum or in the land at large to also turn a blind eye drives a wedge between the communities like no other. it takes us back when we were left to suffer in the hands of eoga.

[kurupetos]

Now you are becoming paranoidal bre gardash. In the RoC there are teachers being paid by the RoC to teach dressmaking/tailoring, flower arrangement, Judo-Karate, house repairs, pottery making, whathave you. Not even one is a member of OELMEK. Each Union has a specific kind of members, for example those working at the Cyprus Telecommunications Authority (CYTA) have their own Union and those who are working at say "primetel" which is another Telephone company cannot join although most of them do exactly the same job as those of CYTA. It's the same everywhere in the World.

Now you may say that it is unfair for you not to be able to join OELMEK, however in a democratic country you always have other choices. For example you may try joining PASYDY (Pancyprian Union of Public Servants) or the other 2 large Unions PEO (if you are a leftist) or SEK (if you are a rightist).

If I were you I wouldn't join anyone Knowing that
a)there are not many people like me for the Union to care for, and stand by me protecting my interests
b)I would have to pay a monthly fee for nothing.

surely not. to be paranoidal you have to be gc as it is a greek word.

i am not asking to join a political party. this is a union and racism in an organisation which calls itself a union which is in the business of looking after workers rights is criminal according to the eu laws. and the government that encourages it or turns a blind eye to is is equally liable. it will come back from eu with a decision and then the government and the union will be taken to court for causing paranoia in tc . because of this i may never be able to work again. it is driving me to depression every five minutes. but for liberal people on this forum or in the land at large to also turn a blind eye drives a wedge between the communities like no other. it takes us back when we were left to suffer in the hands of eoga.

I thought you were living in London.

You must be a psycho, but unfortunately for you there are no shrinks around here. Maybe you can visit Nicosia Gen. Hospital. I think they still treat TC patients for free. Hurry up because Shistofkias won't be president after February...