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new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby boulio » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:02 pm

not alot of details but this is it so far the:

1)relaxed federation
2)gb,turkey,greece give up gurantoer rights in favor of nato
3)sba converted to nato bases
4)property issue will be mostly solved thru payement
5)after agreement natural gas to transfered to europe thru turkey


more to follow
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby boulio » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 pm

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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:29 am

...smells of Famagusta for free; who's idea is it?
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:17 am

Well the source of this is given as the "Afrika" paper in the Occupied Areas.

Where they got it from isn't cited.

Perhaps no coincidence that Downer was in CY for the first time in months yesterday and met with the Pres and with the spokesperson for Turkey and the Illegal Settlers, whose name i forget.

So where has it come from...? Who has been leaking their prefs to the press...???

Well a look at the 4 proposals may shed some light on that...

A "relaxed" or loose federation reeks of CONfederation.
NATO bases and NATO as guarantor is an oddball as CY isn't in NATO but it would give Turkey a foothold in two large areas of the Free Areas.
Property resolved largely through compensation has always been a Turkish ambition... and where's the money coming from...???
Adding the Gas to the negotiations, again very much what Turkey would like to see and taking the CY gas through Turkey was an idea first mooted by the US South East Europe Representative a few months ago.

Then look at what's missing... The Territory question... something that the Illegal Regime said only last week wasn't up for discussion or adjustment.

Conclusion at the mo.. If there is anything in this , this leak has has been prepared by Turkey and the US State Dept to test reactions before the resumption of talks in the Spring.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:15 am

bill cobbett wrote:Well the source of this is given as the "Afrika" paper in the Occupied Areas.

Where they got it from isn't cited.

Perhaps no coincidence that Downer was in CY for the first time in months yesterday and met with the Pres and with the spokesperson for Turkey and the Illegal Settlers, whose name i forget.

So where has it come from...? Who has been leaking their prefs to the press...???

Well a look at the 4 proposals may shed some light on that...

A "relaxed" or loose federation reeks of CONfederation.
NATO bases and NATO as guarantor is an oddball as CY isn't in NATO but it would give Turkey a foothold in two large areas of the Free Areas.
Property resolved largely through compensation has always been a Turkish ambition... and where's the money coming from...???
Adding the Gas to the negotiations, again very much what Turkey would like to see and taking the CY gas through Turkey was an idea first mooted by the US South East Europe Representative a few months ago.

Then look at what's missing... The Territory question... something that the Illegal Regime said only last week wasn't up for discussion or adjustment.

Conclusion at the mo.. If there is anything in this , this leak has has been prepared by Turkey and the US State Dept to test reactions before the resumption of talks in the Spring.

i can tell you the source. it came in a dream to sener levent.

the question is would you boys mind awfully if we switch the guarantor job to nato. after all it also guarantees eu right.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby SKI-preo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:57 am

If a plan does not allow me to return to my village and I am given compensation I will buy "the Jericho" . See pentadaktylos in the background(Pseudo flag removed by photoshop)?



Thankyou.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby B25 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:19 am

bill cobbett wrote:Well the source of this is given as the "Afrika" paper in the Occupied Areas.

Where they got it from isn't cited.

Perhaps no coincidence that Downer was in CY for the first time in months yesterday and met with the Pres and with the spokesperson for Turkey and the Illegal Settlers, whose name i forget.

So where has it come from...? Who has been leaking their prefs to the press...???

Well a look at the 4 proposals may shed some light on that...

A "relaxed" or loose federation reeks of CONfederation.
NATO bases and NATO as guarantor is an oddball as CY isn't in NATO but it would give Turkey a foothold in two large areas of the Free Areas.
Property resolved largely through compensation has always been a Turkish ambition... and where's the money coming from...???
Adding the Gas to the negotiations, again very much what Turkey would like to see and taking the CY gas through Turkey was an idea first mooted by the US South East Europe Representative a few months ago.

Then look at what's missing... The Territory question... something that the Illegal Regime said only last week wasn't up for discussion or adjustment.

Conclusion at the mo.. If there is anything in this , this leak has has been prepared by Turkey and the US State Dept to test reactions before the resumption of talks in the Spring.


The sad thing is Bill, we GC would probably be stupid enough to accept this AP Ver2.0.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby kimon07 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:23 am

bill cobbett wrote:Well the source of this is given as the "Afrika" paper in the Occupied Areas.

Where they got it from isn't cited.

Perhaps no coincidence that Downer was in CY for the first time in months yesterday and met with the Pres and with the spokesperson for Turkey and the Illegal Settlers, whose name i forget.

So where has it come from...? Who has been leaking their prefs to the press...???

Well a look at the 4 proposals may shed some light on that...

A "relaxed" or loose federation reeks of CONfederation.
NATO bases and NATO as guarantor is an oddball as CY isn't in NATO but it would give Turkey a foothold in two large areas of the Free Areas.
Property resolved largely through compensation has always been a Turkish ambition... and where's the money coming from...???
Adding the Gas to the negotiations, again very much what Turkey would like to see and taking the CY gas through Turkey was an idea first mooted by the US South East Europe Representative a few months ago.

Then look at what's missing... The Territory question... something that the Illegal Regime said only last week wasn't up for discussion or adjustment.

Conclusion at the mo.. If there is anything in this , this leak has has been prepared by Turkey and the US State Dept to test reactions before the resumption of talks in the Spring.



Excellent post. Saves me the trouble to comment the leak myself. Thanks.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:01 pm

you see you have to let your friend go and let them want to come back that way you have true friendship. if you force them into friendship it never works.

federation confederation yofederation. if two nations do not wish to be togehter no amount od control and law will make it happen. it will fall apart. if they wish to be together then no law willkeep them apart.

now the question is very simple

what did you as a gc nation do for the tc nation that you did not have to do by law via eu. do you deserve their friendship. answer that and it will lead you to the promise land and beyond.
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Re: new peace plan being reported on simerini

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:07 pm

SKI-preo wrote:If a plan does not allow me to return to my village and I am given compensation I will buy "the Jericho" . See pentadaktylos in the background(Pseudo flag removed by photoshop)?



Thankyou.


anyone who wishes to return to their land would have been able to even under annan. you are stuck in the past. you think that everybody would want to. But people leave their village for education and never return. that is a fact so certainly there is no way 60,000 would want to return.

well in the annan plan 100,000 would return under the gc administration. 40,000 would be able to return under tc administartion and 20,000 would get only compensation and compulsory purchase of their land. I woul leave that bit open and allow all 60,000 who wish to return to be able to subject to a who ever have their land compulorily purchased for government projects.

you had the plan in front of you and you crapped on it. it showd to the world who really is against peace in cyprus. and you let tukey off the hook too. erdogan is very thnakful for your no vote he was banking on it and you alled him to cash it.

well done my friends.
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