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Re: the church cannot solve the crisis...

Postby kimon07 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:30 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:.......Its Churches looted, desecrated and turned in to Animal Mandres, Hashish Dens, Gangster-run Casinos and WhoreHouses filled with Naked Eastern European Girls .

... and what leadership has this Church shown in the Struggle? How many times has this organisation dragged Turkey's ass before the Courts of CY and Europe when it's rich enough to have done it a thousand times?

None!!! ... Absolutely bugger all not once...!!!

Thx for the help CY Church.


Greek Orthodox church sues Turkey over access to religious sites in Cyprus

Church goes before European court alleging Greek Cypriot faithful barred from worshipping in Turkish-controlled north
• Associated Press in Nicosia
• The Guardian, Tuesday 24 November 2009
The Greek Orthodox church of Cyprus has taken Turkey to the European court of human rights over allegedly preventing the 500 Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish north worshipping at religious sites there, a church lawyer said today.
The lawsuit concerns 520 churches, monasteries, chapels and cemeteries under Turkish control since Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974, said Simos Angelides. The north's Greek Cypriot community cannot worship at these sites because they are either derelict or have been converted into mosques, army barracks, stables or nightclubs, he added.

Turkish officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Mediterranean island is split along religious as well as ethnic lines. The Greek-Cypriot south, seat of the country's internationally recognised government, is overwhelmingly Greek Orthodox. The Turkish-Cypriot north is Muslim, but some 500 Greek Cypriots still live there.
The lawsuit will likely further stoke tensions between Turkish Cypriots and the church leader, Archbishop Chrysostomos II, whom they see as an outspoken but influential hardliner representing a nationalist fringe.

Read more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no ... ues-turkey


Kimon, me dear... there are times when people of wisdom bite their tongues, esp on matters of atrociously amateurish and ill-prepared applications. Now will bite me tongue.


Not to worry. Like you said, things like this do happen to people of wisdom. Me included.
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Re: the church cannot solve the crisis...

Postby kimon07 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:36 pm

ZoC wrote:
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ZoC wrote:The church cannot solve the crisis

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/archbishop-c ... s/20121120

“It should not even cross your mind that the church - with its property - can change things. There are others in Cyprus who are richer than the church,” he (the archbishop) said.


When he took over as archbishop in 2006, the church contributed some €5.0 million a year to charity but can now only afford €1.0 million, after incurring losses from exposure to Greek debt.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/archbishop-c ... s/20121120


"There have always been homosexuals,” he said when asked to expound on same-sex marriages.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/archbishop-c ... s/20121120


From your link again:

Part of that teaching is the “abnormal nature” of homosexuality. “If they fight against it and they can’t surpass their problem, then they should at least not be proud and go announcing it. There have always been homosexuals,” he said when asked to expound on same-sex marriages


Do try to present the full picture.
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Re: the church cannot solve the crisis...

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:38 pm

kimon07 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:.......Its Churches looted, desecrated and turned in to Animal Mandres, Hashish Dens, Gangster-run Casinos and WhoreHouses filled with Naked Eastern European Girls .

... and what leadership has this Church shown in the Struggle? How many times has this organisation dragged Turkey's ass before the Courts of CY and Europe when it's rich enough to have done it a thousand times?

None!!! ... Absolutely bugger all not once...!!!

Thx for the help CY Church.


Greek Orthodox church sues Turkey over access to religious sites in Cyprus

Church goes before European court alleging Greek Cypriot faithful barred from worshipping in Turkish-controlled north
• Associated Press in Nicosia
• The Guardian, Tuesday 24 November 2009
The Greek Orthodox church of Cyprus has taken Turkey to the European court of human rights over allegedly preventing the 500 Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish north worshipping at religious sites there, a church lawyer said today.
The lawsuit concerns 520 churches, monasteries, chapels and cemeteries under Turkish control since Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974, said Simos Angelides. The north's Greek Cypriot community cannot worship at these sites because they are either derelict or have been converted into mosques, army barracks, stables or nightclubs, he added.

Turkish officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Mediterranean island is split along religious as well as ethnic lines. The Greek-Cypriot south, seat of the country's internationally recognised government, is overwhelmingly Greek Orthodox. The Turkish-Cypriot north is Muslim, but some 500 Greek Cypriots still live there.
The lawsuit will likely further stoke tensions between Turkish Cypriots and the church leader, Archbishop Chrysostomos II, whom they see as an outspoken but influential hardliner representing a nationalist fringe.

Read more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no ... ues-turkey


Kimon, me dear... there are times when people of wisdom bite their tongues, esp on matters of atrociously amateurish and ill-prepared applications. Now will bite me tongue.


Not to worry. Like you said, things like this do happen to people of wisdom. Me included.


Unfortunately Kimon... you may have betrayed info to the enemy even if inadvertently by unwise negligence... by your own standards you know there is only one remedy...

you will need to tie yourself up and give yourself a good beating... and give GIG a good whipping while you're at it.
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Re: the church cannot solve the crisis...

Postby kimon07 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:10 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Unfortunately Kimon... you may have betrayed info to the enemy even if inadvertently by unwise negligence... by your own standards you know there is only one remedy...

you will need to tie yourself up and give yourself a good beating... and give GIG a good whipping while you're at it.


Oh, so sorry. Hadn't realised the Church of Cyprus (which I defended) was my enemy.
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Re: the church cannot solve the crisis...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:38 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:.......Its Churches looted, desecrated and turned in to Animal Mandres, Hashish Dens, Gangster-run Casinos and WhoreHouses filled with Naked Eastern European Girls .

... and what leadership has this Church shown in the Struggle? How many times has this organisation dragged Turkey's ass before the Courts of CY and Europe when it's rich enough to have done it a thousand times?

None!!! ... Absolutely bugger all not once...!!!

Thx for the help CY Church.


Greek Orthodox church sues Turkey over access to religious sites in Cyprus

Church goes before European court alleging Greek Cypriot faithful barred from worshipping in Turkish-controlled north
• Associated Press in Nicosia
• The Guardian, Tuesday 24 November 2009
The Greek Orthodox church of Cyprus has taken Turkey to the European court of human rights over allegedly preventing the 500 Greek Cypriots living in the Turkish north worshipping at religious sites there, a church lawyer said today.
The lawsuit concerns 520 churches, monasteries, chapels and cemeteries under Turkish control since Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974, said Simos Angelides. The north's Greek Cypriot community cannot worship at these sites because they are either derelict or have been converted into mosques, army barracks, stables or nightclubs, he added.

Turkish officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Mediterranean island is split along religious as well as ethnic lines. The Greek-Cypriot south, seat of the country's internationally recognised government, is overwhelmingly Greek Orthodox. The Turkish-Cypriot north is Muslim, but some 500 Greek Cypriots still live there.
The lawsuit will likely further stoke tensions between Turkish Cypriots and the church leader, Archbishop Chrysostomos II, whom they see as an outspoken but influential hardliner representing a nationalist fringe.

Read more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no ... ues-turkey


Kimon, me dear... there are times when people of wisdom bite their tongues, esp on matters of atrociously amateurish and ill-prepared applications. Now will bite me tongue.


Not to worry. Like you said, things like this do happen to people of wisdom. Me included.


Unfortunately Kimon... you may have betrayed info to the enemy even if inadvertently by unwise negligence... by your own standards you know there is only one remedy...

you will need to tie yourself up and give yourself a good beating... and give GIG a good whipping while you're at it.


well what ever turns you on.... - :D :D :D
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