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[Viewpoint]

thank you for your word salad VP but as always, an ill-reasoned and illogical reply from you.

This sort of answer is expected from someone who cannot face the reality in front of them, the island will remain divided unless you agree the terms that will unite it, simple really.

Err... forgive the interruption, this word "terms" is a worry, so when you say VP ... "agree the terms that will unite it" ... are you saying to agree your terms... ??? ... seriously just asking.

One backed by the UN similar to the AP with adjustments for GC concerns eg implementation.

Errr...the concerns of the people you refer to as "GC" were far, far more more than scheduling their diaries of forthcoming events.

Like?

[Maximus]

A third of the occupied zone's land mass and Varosha back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

[Viewpoint]

A third of the occupied zone's land mass and Varosha back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

Please clarify what you know and your source lets debate exactly how you have arrived at such a conclusion???

[repulsewarrior]

...dialog Lordo, the good stuff where readers can be given the choice not to choose between the "Greek" side or the "Turkish" side, but this crazy idea and it's true intent, Bicommunality, how we as Individuals can defend the Universal Principals of all Mankind, while sustaining the Identities we have, as Persons. if Cypriots can identify that their State is Distinct, in their notion of Nations others may find within it the qualities to change their own thinking.

...indeed, ask, where is the Greek state, not unlike the other Constituencies in Cyprus, resist the exploitation of fear, generalisations and name calling. if you love Cyprus, express this concern, be the Citizen Cyprus needs so that the Republic is freed to be a Cypriot State, and not a Greek State, so that we have Freedom as a People, and as Peoples there is Liberty.

Are you aware that the majority do not support your ideology? "we will never hand over a country for a bi-communal state" ring any bells?

no, no bells ringing.

...but your comment reminds me of the USA, when the war against segregation was at its height, i'm sure that many of that population said the same things you are today.

[Viewpoint]

...dialog Lordo, the good stuff where readers can be given the choice not to choose between the "Greek" side or the "Turkish" side, but this crazy idea and it's true intent, Bicommunality, how we as Individuals can defend the Universal Principals of all Mankind, while sustaining the Identities we have, as Persons. if Cypriots can identify that their State is Distinct, in their notion of Nations others may find within it the qualities to change their own thinking.

...indeed, ask, where is the Greek state, not unlike the other Constituencies in Cyprus, resist the exploitation of fear, generalisations and name calling. if you love Cyprus, express this concern, be the Citizen Cyprus needs so that the Republic is freed to be a Cypriot State, and not a Greek State, so that we have Freedom as a People, and as Peoples there is Liberty.

Are you aware that the majority do not support your ideology? "we will never hand over a country for a bi-communal state" ring any bells?

no, no bells ringing.

...but your comment reminds me of the USA, when the war against segregation was at its height, i'm sure that many of that population said the same things you are today.

Wheres your support, prove it.

[repulsewarrior]

ah, vp.7.

..simple, heard of Martin Luther King?

speaking of bells, "we will never hand over a country for a bi-communal state", what does it mean, who said that, when?

[Maximus]

A third of the occupied zone's land mass and Varosha back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

Please clarify what you know and your source lets debate exactly how you have arrived at such a conclusion???

You calirify it for me VP, you and your kind, in the today, in the now, through the arguments you put forward as to how a unified Cyprus should be formed.

I maintain that the RoC should wait for the Turkish Cypriots to vanish. It will stop all of the arguments about what is and what is not and how things should be. This will also remove any legitimate interlocutors between the two sides but just leave a Turkish Colonization behind. The RoC will then only negotiate for the removal of Turkish troops from the island along with all the other illegal inhabitants in the occupied zone. All to be relocated back to Turkey. Anyone who is residing in Greek Cypriot property and chooses not to go, but can legally reside in the RoC afterwards may face possible litigation.

[Viewpoint]

ah, vp.7.

..simple, heard of Martin Luther King?

speaking of bells, "we will never hand over a country for a bi-communal state", what does it mean, who said that, when?

Sorry to burst your bubble but Martin Luther King is dead so no support there just the creep papapstroplous who claimed he would never hand over a country for a bi-communal state, so you have absolutely no support at all.

[Viewpoint]

A third of the occupied zone's land mass and Varosha back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

Please clarify what you know and your source lets debate exactly how you have arrived at such a conclusion???

You calirify it for me VP, you and your kind, in the today, in the now, through the arguments you put forward as to how a unified Cyprus should be formed.

I maintain that the RoC should wait for the Turkish Cypriots to vanish. It will stop all of the arguments about what is and what is not and how things should be. This will also remove any legitimate interlocutors between the two sides but just leave a Turkish Colonization behind. The RoC will then only negotiate for the removal of Turkish troops from the island along with all the other illegal inhabitants in the occupied zone. All to be relocated back to Turkey. Anyone who is residing in Greek Cypriot property and chooses not to go, but can legally reside in the RoC afterwards may face possible litigation.

Are you over the age of 12? this ideology as I stated in another thread is a myth and will never happen in actual fact the reverse is happening right now after 3 generations of intermarriages and births in Cyprus you cannot throw them out, tell us how exactly you plan to do this.

[repulsewarrior]

Martin Luther King dead? last i heard the racism you present ended. and, his name lives forever. indeed, the dead no less, support my thinking.

...and yes, i too would have voted no for the Annan Plan, if that is what you are talking about. anyone can see how in the end, it was framed (and, without a Greek Constituency it is not Bicommunal).

what has that got to do with Freedom of Speech, and whether a whole People should be tarred because of the acts of a small hooded group were demonstrating their discontent at the crossing, once. (hey, @halil, any news on the vandals that knifed the cars; remember vp?). in my mind vp you ignore what is, to live in a fantasy land filled with the fear you exploit for your personal pleasure at will. that is sad, in so much misery, more misery, and no hope. Cypriots exist vp, Greeks exist, and yes amongst this group there are extremists, not unlike the Community you live in. you, you stoop so low vp to be "right", as though your "love" warrants the entitlement to spread hatred, is that "Turkishness" ? and to what end, so that "you" can hang someone up by their fingernails when suitable? so that the endless discontent suits the plunder of a deep state that lives in the glory of their days gone by in Cyprus? so that if Turcophones are to be exploited, it is by "Turks" (and while garbage piles up on the streets), and most certainly not by Greeks, and especially not "Greece".

...pickle of a Problem when the only solution you see is one where the worst elements first must be identified as "Greek" or "Turk", before you judge them.

...just a few words, and so unthinking, shame vp, whichever one you are today, mr. King lives, the vp i like to think i know is a better Man.