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[Kikapu]

sometimes I think you are from mars kickapu.

in 1963 the constitution was there. did it stop 10,000 greek soldiers enter cyprus illegally or did it stop yorgadjis arm 5000 men. which part of the constitution allowed for that

I really wish you thought a little before you posted. lets face it the constitution is worth the paper it is written on and only if it is soft enough to have dual purpose.

you really think you are so clever
lan sen garacahelsin lan.

Surely you are not talking about the so called undemocratic and racist constitution that was put together by UK, Greece and Turkey for the RoC to cause ethnic problems between Cypriots, just so they can divide Cyprus between themselves, are you?

[Lordo]

sometimes I think you are from mars kickapu.

in 1963 the constitution was there. did it stop 10,000 greek soldiers enter cyprus illegally or did it stop yorgadjis arm 5000 men. which part of the constitution allowed for that

I really wish you thought a little before you posted. lets face it the constitution is worth the paper it is written on and only if it is soft enough to have dual purpose.

you really think you are so clever
lan sen garacahelsin lan.

Surely you are not talking about the so called undemocratic and racist constitution that was put together by UK, Greece and Turkey for the RoC to cause ethnic problems between Cypriots, just so they can divide Cyprus between themselves, are you?

thats the one that was so racist it excluded enosis with greece and taksim with turkey. i mean how racist can one get. and yet you are saying it was created to decide cyprus. it was in black white in the constitution.

what do you think about roc ms unanimously voting for enosis in 67. thats how much they wanted to make the new constitution work. you really need some help my friend. and i mean real help with a dr.

i have one question for you though. are you for enosis or not/ yes or no. dont beat about the bush you hear.

[Kikapu]

sometimes I think you are from mars kickapu.

in 1963 the constitution was there. did it stop 10,000 greek soldiers enter cyprus illegally or did it stop yorgadjis arm 5000 men. which part of the constitution allowed for that

I really wish you thought a little before you posted. lets face it the constitution is worth the paper it is written on and only if it is soft enough to have dual purpose.

you really think you are so clever
lan sen garacahelsin lan.

Surely you are not talking about the so called undemocratic and racist constitution that was put together by UK, Greece and Turkey for the RoC to cause ethnic problems between Cypriots, just so they can divide Cyprus between themselves, are you?

thats the one that was so racist it excluded enosis with greece and taksim with turkey. i mean how racist can one get. and yet you are saying it was created to decide cyprus. it was in black white in the constitution.

what do you think about roc ms unanimously voting for enosis in 67. thats how much they wanted to make the new constitution work. you really need some help my friend. and i mean real help with a dr.

i have one question for you though. are you for enosis or not/ yes or no. dont beat about the bush you hear.

Why don't you first rephrase your question to include Taksim also before I answer it!

As for the rest of your post, stop cherry picking of events and see the whole picture instead.

So, you are saying that Turkey signed to exclude Taksim from the constitution for Cyprus but is now occupying 3rd of the island with it's Illegal Aliens. So what you are saying is, I'm right.. thanks

It seems like, only Greece did not manage to take part of Cyprus, since the UK still have parts of Cyprus also.

[Maximus]

No redistribution of land back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

[Lordo]

sometimes I think you are from mars kickapu.

in 1963 the constitution was there. did it stop 10,000 greek soldiers enter cyprus illegally or did it stop yorgadjis arm 5000 men. which part of the constitution allowed for that

I really wish you thought a little before you posted. lets face it the constitution is worth the paper it is written on and only if it is soft enough to have dual purpose.

you really think you are so clever
lan sen garacahelsin lan.

Surely you are not talking about the so called undemocratic and racist constitution that was put together by UK, Greece and Turkey for the RoC to cause ethnic problems between Cypriots, just so they can divide Cyprus between themselves, are you?

thats the one that was so racist it excluded enosis with greece and taksim with turkey. i mean how racist can one get. and yet you are saying it was created to decide cyprus. it was in black white in the constitution.

what do you think about roc ms unanimously voting for enosis in 67. thats how much they wanted to make the new constitution work. you really need some help my friend. and i mean real help with a dr.

i have one question for you though. are you for enosis or not/ yes or no. dont beat about the bush you hear.

Why don't you first rephrase your question to include Taksim also before I answer it!

As for the rest of your post, stop cherry picking of events and see the whole picture instead.

So, you are saying that Turkey signed to exclude Taksim from the constitution for Cyprus but is now occupying 3rd of the island with it's Illegal Aliens. So what you are saying is, I'm right.. thanks

It seems like, only Greece did not manage to take part of Cyprus, since the UK still have parts of Cyprus also.

the problem is worse then i first realised. i am so glad you are finding this situation so funny. take your time and answer the question. it is not a difficult one to answer but your refusal to answer it speaks volumes. at least you could have repeated your best friends usual garbage which is the right of the greek cypriots to self determination, which i actually support. but if it is enosis then they can take their part of the island to mars if they wish. no objections from me.

no cherry picking my friend even a 5 year old can grasp the situation. by excluding taksim in the 1960 agreement turkey made her intention of the independence of cyprus crystal clear. by also excluding it from 1972 dengtash/clerides agreement, she confirmed her intention. why would makarios object to enosis being excluded and all the people should be able to go back to their homes in 1972. only one reason the aphrodite two plan had not been implemented yet. you aware of this plan of grivas in 1967 are you. i suspect not.

why are they occupying a third of the island is very simple. after 37 years we still only have a ceasefire and no peace agreement. poll the turkish cypriots and exclude so called settlers and see if you can find more than 5% which agree with turkish troops leaving before an agreement. the voting that takes place every 5 years makes this very clear. even a blind man can see this.

no peace no troops out. peace and all troops out including the cypriot eoga national guard and their reservists stripped of their arms.

[Lordo]

No redistribution of land back in exchange for a Turkish apartheid regime in a northern constituency is no solution. Turkeys only trick is to make the Greek Cypriots accept it through blackmail, half-truths, threats and lies.

Never mind your version of (history), look at today, what is happening in the now. Propositions from the Turkish side are completely repugnant and disgraceful. They are illegal and trample on all fundamental and human rights of the Greek Cypriots. The Turkish side wants a tool to oppress, persecute and suppress the southern constituency behind a wall of Turkish fire. This rabid way of thinking, which is obvious to the rest of the world, is the absolute abomination of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey by large.

maximus where were you when all this happened to the turkish cypriots in 63. their rights were also trampled. their land and homes taken. i did not hear a single pipsqueek from your kind then defending human rights of the turkish cypriots. you had your chance and ruined it. when you realise that going back to 1960 or 1963 will never be accepted by 95% of turkish cypriots then you are ready for peace. in the mean time the longer you take the more you consolidate the current turkish position which is the same as eroglus position. we had tallat and christofias went on a wild goose chase explaining to eoga b that talat will not win the election and eroglu will come to power and solve all our problems. he sure has my friend.
it really is not that difficult to understand. enjoy.

[Viewpoint]

Great posts Lordo well done.

[Maximus]

The TC's had an apertheid, which was enshrined in the cosntitution of 1960 and still to this day, a violator of Cypriot rights in Cyprus. It was Turkey who caused and found a reason to "intervene" and invade and rearrange and share Cypriot territory to give the TC's a third of Cyprus, all for themselves. The Turkish Cypriots did not have their rights violated, they had greater rights in the first place. They were also given land and property in exchange and a 'democracy with turks' in an area ethnically cleansed. All because they did not want to give the Greek Cypriots their democratic rights and overt a civil war, and live fairly and peacefully with their compatriots.

As I say, never mind your version of History, talking to you two is like trying to tell a child Santa Clause does not exist. The only dissappointing thing about all of this is how ignorant and how low you will stoop to bask in your own lies.

This all reinfoces my beliefs, that Turks should be kept seperate to any other nationality and the Greek Cypriots should not even think about a federation with anything "Turkish", they should simply leave them to rot in hell because their cards are marked for this already.

[B25]

Great Posts maximus, well done.

It's amazing how these people can conjuer up so many lies and propoganda to justify their crimes against Cyprus and then set out to make us look the guilty party.

Keep up the good work Max, na 'isai kala.

[Maximus]

Their behaviour, attitide and reality is repugnant and disgraceful B25,