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I maintain that the RoC should wait for the Turkish Cypriots to vanish. It will stop much of the arguments about what is and what is not and remove any legitimate interlocutors between the two sides but just leave a Turkish Colonization. The RoC will then only negotiate for the removal of Turkish troops from the island as we as all the illegal inhabitants in the occupied zone and to be relocated back to Turkey. Anyone who is residing in Greek Cypriots property who can legally reside in the RoC afterwards may face possible litigation.

How will the TCs actually vanish when they are marrying and having children with Turks and their children are marrying other TCs, after 3+ generations how do you think you will get rid of them? your ideology is a myth something you wish will happen but in reality with the rate of population increase in the north, majority rule will be your biggest nightmare.

[Viewpoint]

the Annan plan had a Senate (upper house), with 48 members, divided 24:24 between the two communities.

In other words, the Turkish Cypriot's, who are less than 18% of the population, would have political equality (50% "shares in the RoC") with more than 82% of the population. This is more power than they had given to them in the 1960's constitution. This is discrimination, this will form an apartheid.

You are just reinforcing my perceptions of how I have come to my conclusions. Never mind the difference in the versions of History, in the here and now, everything I said stands true and everything you stand for is bogus.

How do you suggest we have equality between the two sides? lets hear what you have to say how will one side stop the other form taking measure that will effect the other negatively?

[Maximus]

I maintain that the RoC should wait for the Turkish Cypriots to vanish. It will stop much of the arguments about what is and what is not and remove any legitimate interlocutors between the two sides but just leave a Turkish Colonization. The RoC will then only negotiate for the removal of Turkish troops from the island as we as all the illegal inhabitants in the occupied zone and to be relocated back to Turkey. Anyone who is residing in Greek Cypriots property who can legally reside in the RoC afterwards may face possible litigation.

How will the TCs actually vanish when they are marrying and having children with Turks and their children are marrying other TCs, after 3+ generations how do you think you will get rid of them? your ideology is a myth something you wish will happen but in reality with the rate of population increase in the north, majority rule will be your biggest nightmare.

It does not matter how, but the indicators show that their numbers are dwindling and the trends are pointing down. The introduction of Turkish citizens in occupied Cyprus has been increasing and the trends are up. unless some greater external force is introduced to change this, the momentum and trends will continue.

There is no re-unification with Turkish citizens or anyone else only holding kkkk passports or identity cards.

[Viewpoint]

Maxi you are avoiding the real question the Turks are marrying TCs whos children are also marrying TC born in the North, do you think that on humanitarian grounds the international community will allow you to throw out everyone in the north? Your problem is growing by the day but you are so blind you cannot see it.

[Maximus]

the Annan plan had a Senate (upper house), with 48 members, divided 24:24 between the two communities.

In other words, the Turkish Cypriot's, who are less than 18% of the population, would have political equality (50% "shares in the RoC") with more than 82% of the population. This is more power than they had given to them in the 1960's constitution. This is discrimination, this will form an apartheid.

You are just reinforcing my perceptions of how I have come to my conclusions. Never mind the difference in the versions of History, in the here and now, everything I said stands true and everything you stand for is bogus.

How do you suggest we have equality between the two sides? lets hear what you have to say how will one side stop the other form taking measure that will effect the other negatively?

there should be a left side and a right side only.

[Viewpoint]

the Annan plan had a Senate (upper house), with 48 members, divided 24:24 between the two communities.

In other words, the Turkish Cypriot's, who are less than 18% of the population, would have political equality (50% "shares in the RoC") with more than 82% of the population. This is more power than they had given to them in the 1960's constitution. This is discrimination, this will form an apartheid.

You are just reinforcing my perceptions of how I have come to my conclusions. Never mind the difference in the versions of History, in the here and now, everything I said stands true and everything you stand for is bogus.

How do you suggest we have equality between the two sides? lets hear what you have to say how will one side stop the other form taking measure that will effect the other negatively?

there should be a left side and a right side only.

Without trust there is not even an up or down,you have to grasp the fact that our past will shape our future and that with interim periods of equality between the two sides we will never move forward.

Lets test your right and left side, if the left side is a party of GCs voted for 80% of purely GCs voters which has a policy to ban the Turkish language.

[Kikapu]

the Annan plan had a Senate (upper house), with 48 members, divided 24:24 between the two communities.

In other words, the Turkish Cypriot's, who are less than 18% of the population, would have political equality (50% "shares in the RoC") with more than 82% of the population. This is more power than they had given to them in the 1960's constitution. This is discrimination, this will form an apartheid.

You are just reinforcing my perceptions of how I have come to my conclusions. Never mind the difference in the versions of History, in the here and now, everything I said stands true and everything you stand for is bogus.

How do you suggest we have equality between the two sides? lets hear what you have to say how will one side stop the other form taking measure that will effect the other negatively?

there should be a left side and a right side only.

Without trust there is not even an up or down,you have to grasp the fact that our past will shape our future and that with interim periods of equality between the two sides we will never move forward.

Lets test your right and left side, if the left side is a party of GCs voted for 80% of purely GCs voters which has a policy to ban the Turkish language.

Lets test the left and right side of your brain.

What do you think the constitution would be there for?

[Viewpoint]

We had a constitution before but it was manipulated for the benefit of purely the GCs, means nothing plus thats just one example you cannot put everything in the constitution....and wasnt it you that said Turkish would not be necessary in the south state??

[Lordo]

sometimes I think you are from mars kickapu.

in 1963 the constitution was there. did it stop 10,000 greek soldiers enter cyprus illegally or did it stop yorgadjis arm 5000 men. which part of the constitution allowed for that

I really wish you thought a little before you posted. lets face it the constitution is worth the paper it is written on and only if it is soft enough to have dual purpose.

you really think you are so clever
lan sen garacahelsin lan.

[Kikapu]

We had a constitution before but it was manipulated for the benefit of purely the GCs, means nothing plus thats just one example you cannot put everything in the constitution....and wasnt it you that said Turkish would not be necessary in the south state??

So, are you telling me Turkish is no longer the official language in the RoC despite the TCs not taking part in the RoC government?

Each state will have their own constitution as well as the Federal constitution, which will supersede the state Constitutions, therefore, if a state should vote for a bill that is unconstitutional at Federal level, it will not become a law.

If the TCs choose not to participate in the RoC's government, it does not mean the country would come to it's knees. If you choose to sit out of the game, it does not mean the game will not continue. It just means playing with less players.

I never said anything of the such about Turkish not being necessary in the south state. I said if the TCs are living in the north state, they would virtually have ZERO to do with the south states governmental institutions. Federal governmental institutions would be another story.