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[Maximus]

I made a mistake, the Turkish side is reluctant to give back any more land other than Varosha and the buffer zone.

[Viewpoint]

I made a mistake, the Turkish side is reluctant to give back any more land other than Varosha and the buffer zone.

8% which includes Maraş and Güzelyurt are not to be sniffed at, plus a unified 100% where people can choose freely which state they wish to reside in, you really need to do more research and not just go on tears and fear of the church.

[Maximus]

The occupied zone should be reduced to proportionally reflect either the population ratios of each ethnic group in 1960 or in the present day. We have to go by the former instead of the latter which is still, probably, in the Turkish sides favour. Eroglu went about the most recent population census in a cloak and dagger fashion, instead of holding it jointly under UN auspices so we dont really know how many Turkish Cypriots are in the occupied areas today.

Land redistribution is independent of political equality and from what I understand, is not democratic in nature but rather the apartheid of the 1960's being reintroduced in a unified Cyprus. Which is the root of the problem and caused all this mess.

[Viewpoint]

The occupied zone should be reduced to proportionally reflect either the population ratios of each ethnic group in 1960 or in the present day. We have to go by the former instead of the latter which is still, probably, in the Turkish sides favour. Eroglu went about the most recent population census in a cloak and dagger fashion, instead of holding it jointly under UN auspices so we dont really know how many Turkish Cypriots are in the occupied areas today.

Land redistribution is independent of political equality and from what I understand, is not democratic in nature but rather the apartheid of the 1960's being reintroduced in a unified Cyprus. Which is the root of the problem and caused all this mess.

Can you supply examples of countries where the land distribution was based on population count %? this is ridiculous as the population will be allowed to settle where they wish and lost land will be compensated either by return where possible or financial payments.

[Maximus]

NORMAL COUNTRIES RESPECT THE SOVEREIGN INTEGRITY AND TERRITORIAL RIGHTS OF OTHER COUNTRIES.

[bill cobbett]

I made a mistake, the Turkish side is reluctant to give back any more land other than Varosha and the buffer zone.

8% which includes Maraş and Güzelyurt are not to be sniffed at, plus a unified 100% where people can choose freely which state they wish to reside in, you really need to do more research and not just go on tears and fear of the church.

Brrrr .... VP ... and others need to look up speeches by Eroglu this past week.

You'll find them reported at the Rubbish Regime's Baycrap site.

Eroglu's position is now... No Return of Varosi and No Return of Morphou.

He is now saying and he says it very clearly by using these words... No Territorial Adjustment...!!!

[Maximus]

I maintain that the RoC should wait for the Turkish Cypriots to vanish. It will stop much of the arguments about what is and what is not and remove any legitimate interlocutors between the two sides but just leave a Turkish Colonization. The RoC will then only negotiate for the removal of Turkish troops from the island as we as all the illegal inhabitants in the occupied zone and to be relocated back to Turkey. Anyone who is residing in Greek Cypriots property who can legally reside in the RoC afterwards may face possible litigation.

[Lordo]

Well they and ppppppplenty more were given in the annan pppppppplan which was refused. it was you bb boys that claimed that the said ppppppppppppplan is dead and bbbbbbbbbbbbburried. now then, are you saying that you want it bbbbbbbbbbbback/ as far as tcs are concerened anything in the annan pppp pp pplan is no longer required.

is this not right. make your bbbbbbbbbbbbloody minds up for once and for all.

[Maximus]

the Annan plan had a Senate (upper house), with 48 members, divided 24:24 between the two communities.

In other words, the Turkish Cypriot's, who are less than 18% of the population, would have political equality (50% "shares in the RoC") with more than 82% of the population. This is more power than they had given to them in the 1960's constitution. This is discrimination, this will form an apartheid.

You are just reinforcing my perceptions of how I have come to my conclusions. Never mind the difference in the versions of History, in the here and now, everything I said stands true and everything you stand for is bogus.

[Viewpoint]

I made a mistake, the Turkish side is reluctant to give back any more land other than Varosha and the buffer zone.

8% which includes Maraş and Güzelyurt are not to be sniffed at, plus a unified 100% where people can choose freely which state they wish to reside in, you really need to do more research and not just go on tears and fear of the church.

Brrrr .... VP ... and others need to look up speeches by Eroglu this past week.

You'll find them reported at the Rubbish Regime's Baycrap site.

Eroglu's position is now... No Return of Varosi and No Return of Morphou.

He is now saying and he says it very clearly by using these words... No Territorial Adjustment...!!!

Without any sign of a solution what did you expect him to say?