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[kimon07]

and how many greeks are expressing simlar views about foreign immigrants to Greece? is not that the sort of tune GD are singing?

Yes it is. And they are both correct. But be careful. EU citizens ARE NOT foreigners in that respect. For a Greek or an Italian moving to Germany or the other way around is the same as a Scot moving to England or a Cretan moving to Athens or a Sicilian moving to Milan to settle and find work etc. I have never heard the Golden Dawn complain about the EU citizens who have moved to Greece to settle and work. While the Germans are complaining about the EU citizens as well and Britain even anounced measures against them some months ago.

[kimon07]

You may not like them, and Im not saying I do, but they were democratically voted by the people of Greece is bone fide elections.

FB actions are wrong and illegal. FUCK YOU FB.

what is actually illegal about what FB has done?

Nothing is illegal. And personaly am glad they did it. After that, we all had the chance to see how some understand democracy, including many in this forum.

btw are you going to cancel your FB accounts in protest/sympathy?

Insignificant. The accounts are free so the cancellation wont hurt them. One thing I will do for sure though. As of today, and I hereby declare it publicly, I am one of their supporters and I will vote for them whenever there will be elections again, both for the Greek as well as the EU parliament. And I will advise people that I know to do the same. I will promote them as much as I can. The reason? The fact that GD is so much feared by the New Order (while real Nazis and the Red Filth of Tsipras are not) and that they are trying so hard to silence it, means that GD is a good thing for Greece and it MUST be supported and promoted. Hopefully, if other Greek voters react in the same way the percentage of GB will jump to at least 20% in no time. I am sure THAT WILL hurt them quite a bit.

Cheers.

[MouflonKerata]

Not sure why some people, older computer illiterate folk in particular, don't particularly like Facebook.

It is an excellent platform for keeping contact with friends, former colleagues, and relatives around the world. It is a good way of storing photos and other information you are willing to share with your selected friends. Some people do take it too far though, which I can't understand.

Facebook even allows you to set the privacy levels, which means you can resrtict access to your friends only, or even just a selected portion of your friends such as your relatives. So everything you have on Facebook can be as private as you like and I have my privacy settings set to full.

Also a great source for news and information.

Some of the comments above are fairly silly in that Facebook is not out to control anyone or anything. It is just a social platform, and does not promote "a new world order" nor is it trying to damage any country, let alone Greece.

However, Facebook was invented by an American for the purpose of allowing university graduates to keep in touch. It has grown and become a global empire and this does not surprise me. it is user friendly and a useful means of communication.

It does however have policies with regards to offensive behaviours such as stalking, bullying and racism. Which is why Golden Dawn were banned I presume. The owner is a Jewish American and it has been noted that Golden Dawn might be anti semitic and at the very least intolerant to foreigners or other nationalities in Greece.

It could also be the case that some people have directly complained about Golden Dawn's Facebook activity or the contents of their page which may have been offensive to some people forcing them to take action. Personally, I have never had an issue, and don't know anyone who has.

I can't say I blame them one bit.

Oh, and Facebook is not just for teenagers. Most of its membership are adult. Most Cypriot Politicians have accounts and it is possible to be able to communicate with them.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Not sure why some people, older computer illiterate folk in particular, don't particularly like Facebook.

It is an excellent platform for keeping contact with friends, former colleagues, and relatives around the world. It is a good way of storing photos and other information you are willing to share with your selected friends. Some people do take it too far though, which I can't understand.

Facebook even allows you to set the privacy levels, which means you can resrtict access to your friends only, or even just a selected portion of your friends such as your relatives. So everything you have on Facebook can be as private as you like and I have my privacy settings set to full.

Also a great source for news and information.

Some of the comments above are fairly silly in that Facebook is not out to control anyone or anything. It is just a social platform, and does not promote "a new world order" nor is it trying to damage any country, let alone Greece.

However, Facebook was invented by an American for the purpose of allowing university graduates to keep in touch. It has grown and become a global empire and this does not surprise me. it is user friendly and a useful means of communication.

It does however have policies with regards to offensive behaviours such as stalking, bullying and racism. Which is why Golden Dawn were banned I presume. The owner is a Jewish American and it has been noted that Golden Dawn might be anti semitic and at the very least intolerant to foreigners or other nationalities in Greece.

It could also be the case that some people have directly complained about Golden Dawn's Facebook activity or the contents of their page which may have been offensive to some people forcing them to take action. Personally, I have never had an issue, and don't know anyone who has.

I can't say I blame them one bit.

Oh, and Facebook is not just for teenagers. Most of its membership are adult. Most Cypriot Politicians have accounts and it is possible to be able to communicate with them.

There you go, MouflonKerate - the reasons some people (me) don't like Facebook is that it's another level of control. Why join something which then censors your "friends" or what they can say?

[MouflonKerata]

I have never experienced any censorship at all, but at the same time I am careful as to who has access.

I think everyone is free to say what they want as long as the content does not harm or insult other groups of people. Facebook doesn't even keep tabs of what people say or do.

I have been to the Golden Dawn page in the past and some of the rubbish on that site was really pushing social boundaries for what is acceptable behaviour. The members they attracted seem to drag their knuckles on the ground if you know what I mean, and that is not the image I like to see be associated with Greece or the Greek people at large.

I am happy they are banned. I am not surprised that they have been banned, but I believe their censorship may be temporary provided they clean up their act and pull up their socks.

[bill cobbett]

Some well put and very sensible contributions by Mouflon above... if he or she doesn't mind me saying.

Has to be added... FB has made useful contributions to the Struggle by allowing activists to meet on-line and promote campaigns, to find out news related to the CY Issue that ain't covered by the media and for sensible conversations and even general friendly chit-chat with CYs from the other side of the cease-fire line and really these are FB's value to me.

... and yes you're quite right Mouflon, leading politicians have a presence. For instance, have had a conversation going with Bagis the Clown for weeks, but it is an exclusively one-way conversation cos he doesn't reply.

Oh and as for FB's social value, if want to talk with someone socially, would go and talk to meself, the only person who ever listens...

[MouflonKerata]

One thing that has not been mentioned (bar Bill Cobbett who beat me to it) in the diversity and scope of Cypriot activism on Facebook by very intelligent Cypriots from all over the world. Other than social media, Cypriots have been using the platform to highlight Turkey's intransigence over Cyprus, and this activism has a potential global reach of millions.

It certainly does not do Cyprus any harm anyway. As to how much good it can achieve is debateable. But awareness and education about the illegal status quo can only be a good thing even if at the end of the day it achieves little. Bringing young Cypriots together is another positive.

I seem to recall that some anti Greece pages were also removed from facebook, after some complaints I presume.

So why was Golden dawn banned?

According to Facebook's rules anyone who publish comments, pictures or posts that challenge persons, races, religions and ideologies is eliminated from the network. Because Golden Dawn profiles "violate the policy against violence and racism" will not longer be available.

http://www.neurope.eu/article/golden-da ... d-facebook

Below is a link of Facebook's Statement of Rights which golden dawn violated.

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_ ... 0037600301

Read the section entitled Safety in particular.

The rules seem clear.

Why even this forum has them (rules), and I presume they will delete content that contravenes the rules.

rules.html

[supporttheunderdog]

Oh, these buggers are on FB...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/National- ... 77?fref=ts

Yes BUT. Golden Dawn advocates AGAINST the enslavement of Greece. They advocate in FAVOUR of it.

do they? If they do it is objectionable.

[kimon07]

One thing that has not been mentioned (bar Bill Cobbett who beat me to it) in the diversity and scope of Cypriot activism on Facebook by very intelligent Cypriots from all over the world. Other than social media, Cypriots have been using the platform to highlight Turkey's intransigence over Cyprus, and this activism has a potential global reach of millions.

It certainly does not do Cyprus any harm anyway. As to how much good it can achieve is debateable. But awareness and education about the illegal status quo can only be a good thing even if at the end of the day it achieves little. Bringing young Cypriots together is another positive.

I seem to recall that some anti Greece pages were also removed from facebook, after some complaints I presume.

So why was Golden dawn banned?

According to Facebook's rules anyone who publish comments, pictures or posts that challenge persons, races, religions and ideologies is eliminated from the network.........

http://www.neurope.eu/article/golden-da ... d-facebook

I suppose that FB eliminated the profiles of all its members who "challenged" the ideology of the Golden Dawn PMs and the 400.000 Greek citizens who voted for them? And of those members who called them fascists, racists and Nazis?

[supporttheunderdog]

I guess dog, goblin and sheEd have never heard of democracy and free speech. GD is a legitimate party of the Hellenic Parliament, not a paramilitary organisation.

The Zionist fascism of the 21st century must be defeated. Show your dignity and delete your FB accounts!

yes and but in a free and democratic society FB are fully entittled to exercise their legitimate democratic rights not to give them a platform..

BS and you know it.

Is it? FB are a privite entity and they are not stopping GD promoting their views: what they are doing is saying that they are not prepared to allow GD to use FB to distribute them.That is their lawfull democratic right. There are plenty of other means GD can use.