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mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:07 am

did anybody watch his performance. oscar i think is order of the day.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Me Ed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:32 am

Yes I watched it and I think that he hit the nail on the head when referring to the gas and oil.

Turkey could have opened a sensible dialogue with the RoC which may have been in the interests of the TC, but resorted to its default stance of threats and confrontation.

How do you seriously expect the RoC to deal with that kind of rhetoric?
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Demonax » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:01 am

Me Ed wrote:Turkey could have opened a sensible dialogue with the RoC which may have been in the interests of the TCs ...


This is no surprise. The last thing Turkey cares about is the interests of the Turkish Cypriots.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Me Ed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:13 am

He also mentioned Cyprus' EEZ and correctly said that it's Turkeys wish that Cyprus didn't exsist because it would give it an enormous EEZ between Turkey and Egypt.

All I have to say is thank God for Kastelorizo, this puny rock reduces Turkeys EEZ to almost nothing in the Med.

But wait, Turkey doesn't actually have an EEZ because it has yet to sign the UN convention of the sea, because its leadership is under the delusion that it can make up its EEZ as it goes along, where in reality this brings nothing but exclusion to Turkey and in the wider context the TCs.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:16 am

How can they talk to you they dont recognize you as a legitimate country without the TC participation? you are just a GC administration to them.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Kikapu » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:45 am

Viewpoint wrote:How can they talk to you they dont recognize you as a legitimate country without the TC participation? you are just a GC administration to them.


The mistake Turkey is making it's not so much for her not recognising the RoC to talk over EEZ and Oil & Gas, but has more to do with her recognising the "trnc", that has become her Achilles heel. Turkey cannot say there is no country of RoC, contrary to the rest of the world's view and then say there is a country of "trnc", also contrary to the world's view. Turkey has trapped herself which ever way you look at it, and if that wasn't bad enough, The rest of the world is behind the RoC as a sovereign nation to explore for natural resources which they back it by sending their Oil & Gas companies to help the RoC bring it up to the surface, and even if that wasn't enough, RoC is also a full member of the EU which Turkey says she wants to be part of. How much worse can it get for Turkey by her saying "we don't recognise the RoC". Has the world stop spinning as a result? No, it has not.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:33 am

come now boys a law that give most of the north east med to cyprus and 97% of the agean to greece cannot be taken seriously. there is delusion and there is megalo delusion but i suspect what you are suffering from ghalo delusion.

but dont worry pigs will fly.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Me Ed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:55 am

Lordo wrote:come now boys a law that give most of the north east med to cyprus and 97% of the agean to greece cannot be taken seriously. there is delusion and there is megalo delusion but i suspect what you are suffering from ghalo delusion.

but dont worry pigs will fly.


Unfotunately for Turkey, the RoC has signed the UN convention of the sea and its signature has been accepted by the UN.

Turkey does not have an EEZ as it has yet to sign the convention, although the convention does define Turkeys EEZ and until Turkey signs the convention it has no say in the EEZ of others.

As they say Lordo, that's the way the cookie cumbles.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:21 pm

Unfortunate we have stopped taking UN seriously some time ago. It has become a tool of oppression for the 5 permanent security members. As to the cookie crumbling certainly is a good analogy. Because thats where it is heading.

certainly they can all do what they like with their ezs so long as the resources are shared fairly. this idea that a tiny island has more than the main land is heading for troubled waters. luckily for turkey she is well equipped for the venture with all the ships and submarines in the are.
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Re: mavroyianni on hardtalk at the bbc last night

Postby Me Ed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:52 pm

The EEZ are apportioned equally along the median lines between countries. Its the fairest way of doing it.

Just because Cyprus is tiny it doesn't entitle Turkey it to any more. There are landlocked countries bigger than Cyprus (and Turkey) that have no EEZ but that's just the way it goes.

Like Mavroyianni stated, its unfortunate for the TCs that the Turks have resorted to gunboat diplomacy, instead of coming to the negotiating table to strike a deal of mutual benefit.

Yet again its the TCs that pay for Turkey's actions.
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