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British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:24 pm

British archive confirms Turkey’s objective was Cyprus division.

Note: From the content of the archive becomes evident that the division was the objective of both Britain and Turkey.

Foreign Office documents, released on Thursday concerning ex-British colonies, confirm that Turkey’s objective in Cyprus has always been the island’s division.
The documents contain extensive references to British scenarios on how to achieve this objective.

UK Permanent Representative to the UN Pierson Dixon writes in a letter to the Foreign Office on June 21, 1957, that the UN would make it very difficult for London to apply partition.
Such a policy, he added, would face great difficulties without US support.

In another letter that was brought to light, Cyprus Deputy Governor George Sinclair writes to Governor John Harding on potential solutions on the island, prior to a May 1957 meeting at Governor’s House.
Sinclair refers to a Turkish proposal, providing for a majority of Greek Cypriots living under Turkish rule in a “Turkish sector” and a Turkish Cypriot minority living under Greek rule in a “Greek sector”.
It was noted that this arrangement, however, would allow 4/5 of the population, consisting of “hostile Greeks” to remain in an area of great military significance for Turkey.

If the island were divided right away between Greeks and Turks, leaving only some pockets of British sovereignty, the document continues, the relocation of the population would create problems. The difference in such an eventuality would be that Greece and Turkey would have the responsibility to find an arrangement. The UK’s responsibility in such a case would be to ensure that Athens and Ankara agree on the dividing lines.
Another document says that Turkish Cypriot leader Fazil Kucuk noted after a meeting with Turkey’s Foreign Minister on January 16, 1957, that the Turkish Cypriot community would not agree to anything but partition.

Moreover, Colonial Secretary John Reddaway confirms on June 29, 1957, that the Turkish government opposed a unitary state in Cyprus and expressed his belief that the British government shared, in principle, a partition-based solution.
The documents show that the US has asked the late Archbishop Makarios, who later on was elected first President of Cyprus, to renounce violence during the armed EOKA struggle.
According to the documents, the US Ambassador in Athens at the time met Makarios on May 3, 1957, who was returning to Cyprus from exile in Seychelles, and asked him to renounce violence, inviting him to adopt an approach, more compatible with his religious capacity.
More documents reveal that the British were thinking of allowing Makarios to return from Athens to Cyprus and place him under solitary confinement at the Stavrovouni Monastery, in Larnaca District.
The documents also suggest that the British were short of interrogators during the EOKA armed struggle in the mid 1950s and were thinking of employing people from Turkey.
According to a relevant document, in May 1956 there were only five interrogators while 21 were needed.
Moreover, released documents indicate that the possibility of Cyprus joining NATO was raised during consultations on the membership of Greece and Turkey to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in September 1951.
During the same period, British commander of Allied forces in the Middle East General Robertson briefed Cyprus Governor on the possibility of transferring the British headquarters to Cyprus.
The Governor appears to have disagreed with this option, due to the cost it entailed.
The documents contain references to General Georgios Grivas, leader of EOKA, following the capture of EOKA fighters and the discovery of Grivas’ personal belongings.
Cyprus Governor Harding, in a letter to the Colonial Office informed London that in case of capturing Grivas, dead or alive, a smear campaign would follow, presenting him as a ruthless mercenary who brought to Cyprus the most extreme elements of Greek civil war. (Comment: That they did with the help of AKEL and they still do).
Harding added that he would also try to project Makarios’ handling of the Cyprus question as rather inefficient, and as a man who chose a “bully” as his main aide and put at risk the entire Greek Orthodox Church.

Source: famagusta-gazette.com

Conclusions:

1. All discussions and negotiations should be terminated NOW and the RoC should prepare a new Constitution to be submitted to the UN and EU for approval.
2. Britain should be prohibited/stopped from interfering in any way to the efforts made for a fair solution of the CYProb.
3. Archives like this one should be circulated by the RoC all over the world and the international and EU fora to reveal the dirty game played against Cyprus by the two of them and the real causes of the problem.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby B25 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:56 pm

Kimon, this we lready knew, but it is good to actually have the evidence.
This puts the cherry on he icing regarding my other post, that stated turkey was coming to cyprus even without any muslems here.
CASED CLOSED. VP, YFUCK, GO F YOURSELVES HERE IS THE PROOF.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:35 pm

B25 wrote:Kimon, this we lready knew, but it is good to actually have the evidence.
This puts the cherry on he icing regarding my other post, that stated turkey was coming to cyprus even without any muslems here.
CASED CLOSED. VP, YFUCK, GO F YOURSELVES HERE IS THE PROOF.

you are a what a poof did you say.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:36 am

B25 wrote:Kimon, this we already knew, but it is good to actually have the evidence.
This puts the cherry on he icing regarding my other post, that stated turkey was coming to Cyprus even without any muslims here.
CASE CLOSED. VP, YFUCK, GO F YOURSELVES HERE IS THE PROOF.


Correct. This we all knew from various articles, reports and books and many of us have posted a lot of relevant information in the past in this forum (see my threads "The bloody truth about Cyprus" and "Why was Britain defeated by EOKA").

But the British archives are the official confession of the crime. Like you said, "Case Closed". Sentence should be now passed.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:21 pm

case closed why have you packed where are you going can anyone join you is it nice where you are going.

i see you are blind to the real crime of what roc committed for 14 years. from 1960 to 74 they did everything they could to destroy the roc and join it with greece. that is treason in any reasonable society. but of course this being a banana republic everything is inveresed right. treason is heroism. oh yeah.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:07 am

Lordo wrote:case closed why have you packed where are you going can anyone join you is it nice where you are going.

i see you are blind to the real crime of what roc committed for 14 years. from 1960 to 74 they did everything they could to destroy the roc and join it with greece. that is treason in any reasonable society. but of course this being a banana republic everything is inveresed right. treason is heroism. oh yeah.


lordo, it is hard to understand what crime Cypriots did, the overwhelming majority Greeks, because there was amongst them "Greeks" (and "Turks"). if you are talking about the Society Makarios represented, how is it possible that there was a coup against him, and a murder attempt previously; the picture you paint is not so clear, especially because the coup itself failed within two days, no Cypriots supported it.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:28 pm

rw when i refer to the roc that is not a reference to the greek cypriots that is a reference to the government and in particular the ministers. to this day the average greek cypriot blames tmt for the enclaves. in reality there is no power tmt could yield to move the turkish cypriots into the enclaves. that was done by eoga. once a single innocent person has disappeared that community no longer feels safe hence they moved to where they could be protected. i lived it and witnessed the fear in peoples faces.

the crimes are two fold. first the fear of eoga which was organised by the roc ministers and then once in the enclaves the suffocation. you will find that even baby milk was banned into the enclaves at one stage. vehicle tyres, cement sand and petrol was also banned. in order to visit a hospital a un escort had to be arranged. my aunt died waiting for a un escort. two of my cousins got picked up by the police and have never been seen since. these were the types of crimes committed by the roc on hundreds of innocent turkish cypriots. i understand that tmt also committed crimes but the difference is that tmt were not elected individuals representing the country where the greek cypriot ministers were. the real crime to this day is being committed by even the forumers on here when they claim it was tmt that hearded the turkish cypriots to the enclaves. it is the most disgusting comment i have ever come across. and it is tolerated on this forum. you really need to read the akritas plan in conjunction with what makarios was saying at the time it was created. also get hold of the aphrodite one plan and read on how they were going to use 10,000 greek soldiers to stop turkey long enough to kill all the turkish cypriots and then turkey would have no reason to invade in 64. such genocidal psychopathic plans are in existance to this day.

when it comes to the coup of 74. Makarios had a plan. suffocate the turkish cypriots in the enclaves and eventually all will leave cyprus. and it was working. unfortunately for him his brothers in arms were not so patient. they wanted it now as it were. which is the reason for the coup. There is no doubt that during the coup all the officers were supporters of the coup which put the whole of the gc ng in their hands. the coupists did not give up till the turkish invasion. they killed hundreds of what they called kochina. they did not give up power till turkey invaded. by which time decision was made that the turkish community could not be protected scattered all over the island. it had to be changed to a single zone. the rest is history.

the simple fact of Makarios refusing the offer of acceptance by dengtash and turkey of the 13 amendments including the unification of the local authorities speaks volumes to our selectively hearing challenged forumers. but the turkish cypriots can hear it well. even the liberal elements of the turkish cypriots community are now repeating what dengtash used to say. simply that the greek cypriots dont want us. these are people who have been organising for peace for decades even when it was dangerous to do so. people would lose their jobs just talking about peace. those days are over thankfully but unfortunately our greek cypriot counterparts are about 3 decades behind when it come to peace. there are no Ozker Ozgurs or Talatas in the south. there is no afrika or yeniduzen either.

i am afraid the peace boat has arrived and gone and i cannot see another one in the horizon.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:51 pm

Lordo wrote:rw when i refer to the roc that is not a reference to the greek cypriots that is a reference to the government and in particular the ministers. to this day the average greek cypriot blames tmt for the enclaves. in reality there is no power tmt could yield to move the turkish cypriots into the enclaves. that was done by eoga. once a single innocent person has disappeared that community no longer feels safe hence they moved to where they could be protected. i lived it and witnessed the fear in peoples faces.......


Your rubbish has been answered 100 times. Go read the threads about the TMT, EOKA etc. Stop littering the forum again and again with the same old TMT and Turkish propaganda.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:52 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Lordo wrote:rw when i refer to the roc that is not a reference to the greek cypriots that is a reference to the government and in particular the ministers. to this day the average greek cypriot blames tmt for the enclaves. in reality there is no power tmt could yield to move the turkish cypriots into the enclaves. that was done by eoga. once a single innocent person has disappeared that community no longer feels safe hence they moved to where they could be protected. i lived it and witnessed the fear in peoples faces.......


Your rubbish has been answered 100 times. Go read the threads about the TMT, EOKA etc. Stop littering the forum again and again with the same old TMT and Turkish propaganda.

sure has but still no lights upstairs right/
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:16 pm

Lordo wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Lordo wrote:rw when i refer to the roc that is not a reference to the greek cypriots that is a reference to the government and in particular the ministers. to this day the average greek cypriot blames tmt for the enclaves. in reality there is no power tmt could yield to move the turkish cypriots into the enclaves. that was done by eoga. once a single innocent person has disappeared that community no longer feels safe hence they moved to where they could be protected. i lived it and witnessed the fear in peoples faces.......


Your rubbish has been answered 100 times. Go read the threads about the TMT, EOKA etc. Stop littering the forum again and again with the same old TMT and Turkish propaganda.

sure has but still no lights upstairs right/


Go read the confessions of Rauf Denktash and others like him. Also read the articles of Sener Levent and others like him and stop littering the forum.
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