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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:46 am

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...as such, i ask you, do you see the value in a Greek Constituency, if there exists a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, as well?


...and by the way, i'd like an answer to the above question. (is it time for the Republic to be freed to fight for its Citizens as Cypriots, because Turkish Cypriots call for an equal partner in Greek Cypriots, who like them, have self representation to sustain their Identity as Persons within a Constituency too?)


...still hoping for an answer.

i prefer not use the racial terminology, why not have North and South. but certainly two constituencies is necessary at this time. in 20 years time we may be ready for no constiuencies. but that rather depends on the gc people and their media as well as their politicians. tcs were ready for peace in 2004.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:23 am

dear lordo, your reply, reeks of the excremente a bull would make, why Constituencies at all?

...and to add to the sentiment against any racist ideas, why not more than two; don't you think the rare ethnography of Cyprus is worth sustaining?

clearly, "Turk" is, to you, important. it seems Cyprus comes second in your thinking, without "race", why are "two" constituencies so important?
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:33 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:dear lordo, your reply, reeks of the excremente a bull would make, why Constituencies at all?

...and to add to the sentiment against any racist ideas, why not more than two; don't you think the rare ethnography of Cyprus is worth sustaining?

clearly, "Turk" is, to you, important. it seems Cyprus comes second in your thinking, without "race", why are "two" constituencies so important?


becasue we had more than two and we were kicked the excrementous out of us and we have no intention to ever be in that position ever again. not while the nazis are in power in the banaana republic. by all mean you can perhaps 3 if you wish to have karpaz back but thats as far as it goes.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:49 pm

...three constituencies, when, what do you mean? (Karpas as a Constituency, what's that?)

...obviously, i am still waiting for an answer to a question which seems very clear:

there is a Republic, there is a Turkish Constituency, is it time for a Greek Constituency as well?
...and if there are Cypriot Constituencies within a Republic, why not Maronite, Armenian, and Latin, Constituencies?
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:50 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...three constituencies, when, what do you mean? (Karpas as a Constituency, what's that?)

...obviously, i am still waiting for an answer to a question which seems very clear:

there is a Republic, there is a Turkish Constituency, is it time for a Greek Constituency as well?
...and if there are Cypriot Constituencies within a Republic, why not Maronite, Armenian, and Latin, Constituencies?


Because they sold themselves out to the GCs and did not fight for the right to have their own constituency.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:30 pm

no vp they can have theirs too but they have not asked for it and have been rewarded in the roc for their loyalty. of course it will come out of the greek constituency, you dont ask you dont get.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:17 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...three constituencies, when, what do you mean? (Karpas as a Constituency, what's that?)

...obviously, i am still waiting for an answer to a question which seems very clear:

there is a Republic, there is a Turkish Constituency, is it time for a Greek Constituency as well?
...and if there are Cypriot Constituencies within a Republic, why not Maronite, Armenian, and Latin, Constituencies?


Lordo, still waiting for your answer.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:44 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...three constituencies, when, what do you mean? (Karpas as a Constituency, what's that?)

...obviously, i am still waiting for an answer to a question which seems very clear:

there is a Republic, there is a Turkish Constituency, is it time for a Greek Constituency as well?
...and if there are Cypriot Constituencies within a Republic, why not Maronite, Armenian, and Latin, Constituencies?


Lordo, still waiting for your answer.


rw maronites armenians and latins can also have their cinstituencies if they wish. it is up to them, people must be allowed to choose what ever they want. forcing any community to be part of another does not work. these groups you mentioned chose to be counted as gc in the 1960 constitution. what more can i say.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:47 am

No, the other minorities were NEVER asked if they want to form their own separate identity category. When the ID system was drafted the only two choices were GC-Christian, or TC-Moslem. It is a gross lie to claim that the Maronites, Armenians and Latins had a choice and chose GC identity, that is the closest they could choose to their religion and that is how it went.

Twisting the issue in terms "they chose to align themselves with the Greeks" is trypical Turkish bullshit and we have heard it before, as an excuse of the Armenian massacre in 1915- in that case the Armenians were supposed to have colluded with the Russians, (who by a strange reversal of sentiment later armed Mustafa Kemal) and that justified the massacre in Turkish thinking.

In February 1964 the TMT thugs forced the Armenian community of Nicosia to vacate their homes. Exactly what threat the Armenians posed, and how this threat was manifested we never learned. Again, a typical case of self determined Turkish grandiosity that put everyone at a lower rank. It was never a GC threat that caused it, it was always a Turkish superiority complex and outright racist.

In your case Lordo and VP I would have asked, why none of the other communities in Cyprus chose to align themselves with the TC community in the ID choices imposed in 1960? The Maronites are of Arab origin, and have been in Cyprus centuries before the TCs, the Latins are remnants of the Catholic communities and also preceded the TCs, maybe their collective memory of cohabitation with the TCs was not so happy. Even the Moslem Roma fled the north at the first chance. Naturally we cannot expect you to sit and ponder the reasons. You are too busy being a special case.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:50 am

Niki we have and arefighting for our rights what are the other communities doing? jack shit, they have chosen to lick GC arse and have lost any right to even be concisdered for their own state. You can always give them guaranteed rights in your own constituent state that woudl be a reward for years of loyal support for your cause.
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