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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Me Ed » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:39 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:You can't expect anything better from Turkey's puppets.


This doesn't quite come as a surprise to us.

So can you explain to us Cypriots why in 1974 you Greek wannabes bent over and stretched your cheeks so wide you invited the Turks to well and truly ram you up the ass taking us all down with you?


Firstly stop pretending you are a Cypriot.

We Greek Cypriots have enough guts to admit where we have been wong and when.
1.Signing the Zurich-London agreements.
2. Not taking St Hilarion when we could.
3. Not shooting Denktash in the head when we arrested him.
4. Letting the Greek Army division leave Cyprus in 1967.
Only cowards are blaming everybody else for their troubles and hardships.


Ah! So the end of communal violence coincided with the departure of the Greek Army division in 1967.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:38 pm

you are forgetting the dreaded grivas. he also left the island and then the communal violence came to an end. strangle the non communal violence also started early seventies when he arrived on the island again. you would think the gcs would have learned from the experience of 63 to 67 but i am afraid the lights upstairs for a our bashpatriostakises were not on. strangely nobody seems to know where the bloomin switch is to turn it on to this day. never mind onward and upward and ignore the cliff you will be fine at the bottom. nothing can hurt you.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:14 pm

Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:You can't expect anything better from Turkey's puppets.


This doesn't quite come as a surprise to us.

So can you explain to us Cypriots why in 1974 you Greek wannabes bent over and stretched your cheeks so wide you invited the Turks to well and truly ram you up the ass taking us all down with you?


Firstly stop pretending you are a Cypriot.

We Greek Cypriots have enough guts to admit where we have been wong and when.
1.Signing the Zurich-London agreements.
2. Not taking St Hilarion when we could.
3. Not shooting Denktash in the head when we arrested him.
4. Letting the Greek Army division leave Cyprus in 1967.
Only cowards are blaming everybody else for their troubles and hardships.


Ah! So the end of communal violence coincided with the departure of the Greek Army division in 1967.


:lol: :lol:

Was the Greek division ever involved in operations against TCs? If you were a Cypriot you would know it didn't.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:20 pm

Lordo wrote:you are forgetting the dreaded grivas. he also left the island and then the communal violence came to an end....


I thought the inter-communal violence started in 1956 by ther TMT and then again in 19634 when Grivas was not on the island?
Grivas was recalled in 1964 after the bombings of Mansura remember? To form the National Guard, remember? And Grivas didn't start anything in Kofinou. You did. Remember?

.....strangle the non communal violence also started early seventies when he arrived on the island again.....


:?

....you would think the gcs would have learned from the experience of 63 to 67 but i am afraid the lights upstairs for a our bashpatriostakises were not on. strangely nobody seems to know where the bloomin switch is to turn it on to this day. never mind onward and upward and ignore the cliff you will be fine at the bottom. nothing can hurt you.


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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:26 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
kimon07 wrote:You can't expect anything better from Turkey's puppets.


This doesn't quite come as a surprise to us.

So can you explain to us Cypriots why in 1974 you Greek wannabes bent over and stretched your cheeks so wide you invited the Turks to well and truly ram you up the ass taking us all down with you?


Firstly stop pretending you are a Cypriot.

We Greek Cypriots have enough guts to admit where we have been wong and when.
1.Signing the Zurich-London agreements.
2. Not taking St Hilarion when we could.
3. Not shooting Denktash in the head when we arrested him.
4. Letting the Greek Army division leave Cyprus in 1967.
Only cowards are blaming everybody else for their troubles and hardships.


Ah! So the end of communal violence coincided with the departure of the Greek Army division in 1967.


:lol: :lol:

Was the Greek division ever involved in operations against TCs? If you were a Cypriot you would know it didn't.


so you are not aware of the famous speech given by the greek major just before they attacked kofunye where he said not even the tc chickens should be spared. i think you have one hell of a ear wax problem my elam friend. being in denial only serves tour ignorance.

why don't you post the Aphrodite plans one and two in full greek to see what the role of the 10,000 greeks were. btw how legal was having 10,000 greek soldiers in cyprus at that time. which un resolution and which clause in international law allowed it my one cell brained elam friend.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:16 pm

Lordo wrote:

so you are not aware of the famous speech given by the greek major just before they attacked kofunye where he said not even the tc chickens should be spared...


NO! But I know of a Grek major, oficer of the National Guard, not of the Greek Division, who nearly shot a Greek Cypriot policeman who shot a Turkish Cypriot militant who had come out to surrender.

....why don't you post the Aphrodite plans one and two in full greek to see what the role of the 10,000 greeks were.


I have already done that. Why don't you post your "version"?

btw how legal was having 10,000 greek soldiers in cyprus at that time....


perfectly legit considering they were called to Cyprus by the government of the RoC after the bombings of Masnsura, in order to defend the island against an illegal Turkish invasion which was being used as constant threat and blackmail since 1963.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:30 pm

really thats a new one. when did it happen before or after they killed 15 kofunye residents. or was it when they were burning the old disabled man alive.

you are so civilized.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:39 pm

Lordo wrote:


....why don't you post the Aphrodite plans one and two in full greek to see what the role of the 10,000 greeks were.


I have already done that. Why don't you post your "version"?


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by kimon07 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:15 am

Lordo wrote:Talking of 1974, what exactly was Sampson planning with his Aphrodite 1 and 2 plans? Was it a Tea Party? I hope it included Turkish Coffee, Dengtash liked it sketto.


Quit your propaganda.

Aphrodite 1 and Aphrodite 2 were plans for the defense of Cyprus against a turkish invasion.

According to Aphrodite 1 the Nat. Guard would deal with the militants of the enclaves while the Greek Division would be used for the defense on the beaches and for the counter offensive against the beach head.

When the Greek division was withdrawn in 1967 by the Greek junta, the plan was amended to Aphrodite 2 according to which both legs of the defense would be undertaken by the National Guard, while the counter offensive would be spear headed by the Greek contingent (ELDYK) aided by other Nat. guard units (armored battalions commando battalions etc). Unfortunately, due to the messy situation that followed the coup against Makarios, Aphrodite 2 was not implemented.
Aphrodite Two Defense Plan and Counter Offensive

The Cyprus National Guard High Command had planned a massive island-wide assault on the Turkish-Cypriot enclaves of Cyprus, in the event of a Turkish invasion, so as to quickly eliminate these enclaves as potential footholds for a bridgehead. The initial plan (drawn up by Georgios Grivas in 1964) was given the codename "Aphrodite One" and relied upon the presence of a full Greek division of 10,000 troops with heavy weapons. This division however, had been withdrawn from the island in 1967, and so a new plan was drawn up prior to 1974, named Aphrodite Two, and was to take the form of a major ground offensive against the enclaves, instigated at the initiative of the Greek Cypriots rather than the Greeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_o ... _Offensive

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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:10 pm

noooo that was not my propaganda. that was wikki just to to prove that it existed. when we find the original and translate it then you realise the schemes grivas was cooking up my little elam friend.
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Re: British archives expose Britain and Turkey.

Postby kimon07 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:37 am

Lordo wrote:noooo that was not my propaganda. that was wikki just to to prove that it existed...


Did I ever say it did not exist? Its the content which you give to it that I dispute.

.........when we find the original and translate it then.....


....then we will all be eternally grateful to you and YOU will hide for a few months.!

Till then, I suggest you take a look in the findings of the parliament of the RoC about the coop and the invasion were there are extensive references to the Greek Army Division and its role according to Aphrodite 1.

You will also find extensive references to the incidents of Kofinou, how Turkey and Denktash provoked it and what was their aim (to have the Americans pressing Greece to withdraw Grivas and the division because Denktash and Turkey believed that its presence on the island had in fact brought de facto enosis with Greece).

http://www.antinews.gr/wp-content/uploa ... %CE%A5.pdf
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