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[observer]

Try reading the Bible's Liviticus Chapter 20 - Like in verse 9 "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." That's what your Bible supports.

Many books have been written in the beautiful language of Greek (no doubt, there is a Koran translated into Greek but it doesn't make it part of Greek culture).

"Leviticus is the third of five books of the Jewish Torah or Pentateuch" and was written several thousand years ago. Do you know ANY Jewish or Christian cultures which actually put to death anyone for "cursing" to this day?

Are you suggesting that Islam has greater respect for the life of individuals? And women in particular?

Christianity has moved on, many times. Islam is fairly new historically but far more anachronistic and embedded in primeval suffering. It degenerates people and is more of a political tool.

Would you care to give me a quote from the Koran to illustrate what you mean?

As you mentioned women in particular, from the Bible - I think included in the Greek one - the message of St. Paul to the Ephesians 5:22-24 ". “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”

From the Koran ""Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard." (4:34)

Not so very different.

[supporttheunderdog]

Try reading the Bible's Liviticus Chapter 20 - Like in verse 9 "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." That's what your Bible supports.

Not MY Bible. I am a GREEK.

Oh yes it does!

9 ΠΑΣ ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΣ ΟΣΤΙΣ ΚΑΚΟΛΟΓΗΣΗ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΤΕΡΑ ΑΥΤΟΥ Η ΤΗΝ ΜΗΤΕΡΑ ΑΥΤΟΥ ΕΞΑΠΑΝΤΟΣ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΘΑΝΑΤΩΘΗ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΤΕΡΑ ΑΥΤΟΥ Η ΤΗΝ ΜΗΤΕΡΑ ΑΥΤΟΥ ΕΚΑΚΟΛΟΓΗΣΕ ΤΟ ΑΙΜΑ ΑΥΤΟΥ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΕΙΣΘΑΙ ΕΠ ΑΥΤΟΝ

ΛΕΥΙΤΙΚΟΝ - 20o Κεφάλαιο

http://www.greekbiblos.gr/levitiko_20.htm

You don't get me do you? I meant the Bible IS NOT MY holy book. But the point of observer is irrelevant any way.

and who first quoted the bible in this thread to justify murder?

[kimon07]

Try reading the Bible's Liviticus Chapter 20 - Like in verse 9 "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." That's what your Bible supports.

Many books have been written in the beautiful language of Greek (no doubt, there is a Koran translated into Greek but it doesn't make it part of Greek culture).

"Leviticus is the third of five books of the Jewish Torah or Pentateuch" and was written several thousand years ago. Do you know ANY Jewish or Christian cultures which actually put to death anyone for "cursing" to this day?

Are you suggesting that Islam has greater respect for the life of individuals? And women in particular?

Christianity has moved on, many times. Islam is fairly new historically but far more anachronistic and embedded in primeval suffering. It degenerates people and is more of a political tool.

Would you care to give me a quote from the Koran to illustrate what you mean?

As you mentioned women in particular, from the Bible - I think included in the Greek one - the message of St. Paul to the Ephesians 5:22-24 ". “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”

From the Koran ""Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard." (4:34)

Not so very different.

What a boring subject. Go to Greek philosophy to find your solutions.

[Get Real!]

What a boring subject. Go to Greek philosophy to find your solutions.

Is that where you’ve been going?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Try reading the Bible's Liviticus Chapter 20 - Like in verse 9 "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." That's what your Bible supports.

Many books have been written in the beautiful language of Greek (no doubt, there is a Koran translated into Greek but it doesn't make it part of Greek culture).

"Leviticus is the third of five books of the Jewish Torah or Pentateuch" and was written several thousand years ago. Do you know ANY Jewish or Christian cultures which actually put to death anyone for "cursing" to this day?

Are you suggesting that Islam has greater respect for the life of individuals? And women in particular?

Christianity has moved on, many times. Islam is fairly new historically but far more anachronistic and embedded in primeval suffering. It degenerates people and is more of a political tool.

Would you care to give me a quote from the Koran to illustrate what you mean?

As you mentioned women in particular, from the Bible - I think included in the Greek one - the message of St. Paul to the Ephesians 5:22-24 ". “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”

From the Koran ""Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard." (4:34)

Not so very different.

I think you left the best bits out. The difference is, observer, that whilst we view the Bible in its true historical context, your culture actually indoctrinates the Koran upon everyday life. Otherwise, we wouldn't see your first ladies next to Gul and Erdogan clad in headscarves. Understand? We also would not now be hearing from your government that it wants to bring back hanging/killing prisoners ...

Put things into perspective and context, if you can.

[bill cobbett]

you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next.

Now then Lordo...

Haven't seen an apology or a withdrawal of another of your outrageously and disgustingly hate-spreading comments yet.

Might we have one now please??? ... or are people to go around thinking you've got jellied eels for brain and heart...???

[Lordo]

you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next.

Now then Lordo...

Haven't seen an apology or a withdrawal of another of your outrageously and disgustingly hate-spreading comments yet.

Might we have one now please??? ... or are people to go around thinking you've got jellied eels for brain and heart...???

hate spreading/ me/ never. facts my dear friend. lets get some facts. till we find the speeches the man made in those years nothing is proven. now i see a lot of speeches after 74 and yet none between 1960 and 1967 the year the parliament voted for enosis. you want hatred there is hatred if you can see it. can you imagine the parliament voting for the destruction of the roc. if you as an idividual got caught with such activity, it is called treason and you would be shot. here you are with non-elected representatives voting to abolish roc and join greece and you have the audacity to accuse me of hatred spreading. how much hatred was in that vote which to this day has not been repealed. the international community may be manipulated by your russian friends but you will never be forgiven for what you have done to this country and still continue to do. not now and not ever.

[bill cobbett]

you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next.

Now then Lordo...

Haven't seen an apology or a withdrawal of another of your outrageously and disgustingly hate-spreading comments yet.

Might we have one now please??? ... or are people to go around thinking you've got jellied eels for brain and heart...???

hate spreading/ me/ never. facts my dear friend. lets get some facts. till we find the speeches the man made in those years nothing is proven. now i see a lot of speeches after 74 and yet none between 1960 and 1967 the year the parliament voted for enosis. you want hatred there is hatred if you can see it. can you imagine the parliament voting for the destruction of the roc. if you as an idividual got caught with such activity, it is called treason and you would be shot. here you are with non-elected representatives voting to abolish roc and join greece and you have the audacity to accuse me of hatred spreading. how much hatred was in that vote which to this day has not been repealed. the international community may be manipulated by your russian friends but you will never be forgiven for what you have done to this country and still continue to do. not now and not ever.

The people who'll be remembered Lordo are the Evil Toe-Rags who have spread and continue to this day to spread malicious hatred.

Are you one of them Lordo...??? Are you an Evil Toe-Rag who spreads hatred by posting rubbish...???

[Lordo]

you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next.

Now then Lordo...

Haven't seen an apology or a withdrawal of another of your outrageously and disgustingly hate-spreading comments yet.

Might we have one now please??? ... or are people to go around thinking you've got jellied eels for brain and heart...???

hate spreading/ me/ never. facts my dear friend. lets get some facts. till we find the speeches the man made in those years nothing is proven. now i see a lot of speeches after 74 and yet none between 1960 and 1967 the year the parliament voted for enosis. you want hatred there is hatred if you can see it. can you imagine the parliament voting for the destruction of the roc. if you as an idividual got caught with such activity, it is called treason and you would be shot. here you are with non-elected representatives voting to abolish roc and join greece and you have the audacity to accuse me of hatred spreading. how much hatred was in that vote which to this day has not been repealed. the international community may be manipulated by your russian friends but you will never be forgiven for what you have done to this country and still continue to do. not now and not ever.

The people who'll be remembered Lordo are the Evil Toe-Rags who have spread and continue to this day to spread malicious hatred.

Are you one of them Lordo...??? Are you an Evil Toe-Rag who spreads hatred by posting rubbish...???

only if you consider seeking the truth as rubbish.

come on what are you waiting for, post what you have about the big man. you know you want to. we have a priest who is at home in the nazi party and you have doubts of what the archbishop said in 1962. truth and proof my friend is what we after. you got some. but dont do what you did last time where you posted what magarinos said what dengtash did. that was spreading hatred. get it.

[bill cobbett]

May be a language problem...

Lordo bey!!! ... Sen Türd müsün ....???