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[kimon07]

Matt 23:13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!..”
http://www.bible-history.com/pharisees/ ... risees.htm

Since the beginning of time, in all countries around the world, during war time, the punishment for treason, collaboration with the enemy, defection to the enemy and desertion was, is and will always be DEATH. Under a state of revolution the authority to pass judgment and order the penalty is none other than the military leadership of the revolutionaries.

Those guilty of treason, collaboration etc, are NOT fellow citizens. They are scum of the earth who tried to harm their fellow citizens and the cause of their fellow citizens and their nation as a whole for money or other cheap reasons. And therefore, they deserve to die.

As to the question whether the particular twelve (8+4) AKEL members executed by EOKA were indeed collaborators, as EOKA insists, or not, as AKEL says, my answer is very simple.

1. It is the word of the gallant freedom fighters of EOKA, against the word of the professional forgers of history such as AKEL, the TMT and the representatives of colonialism and neo-colonialism. Easy choice. I believe EOKA.

2. EOKA had no reason and no intention to be killing innocent fellow Cypriots just because they were members or followers of AKEL. Firstly, because EOKA was formed to fight the British, not to launch an anti-communist or anti-AKEL campaign. Secondly, because, contrary to what some SHIT in this forum claim or suggest, EOKA fighters and EOKA members, such as Clerides and Tassos Papadopoulos and other prominent Greek Cypriots, were not murderous thugs who enjoyed killing unarmed innocent fellow Cypriots. They were brave men who decided to die fighting alone against an Empire. Such brave men don’t murder innocent people for fun or for their political beliefs. Such were and still are the practices of the communists all over the world. Not of Freedom Fighters.

[supporttheunderdog]

all of this is very rich coming from a man who supports a party that looks to Hitler as some sort of inspiration, if not the spritual leader, part of movement that has always supported violence against the individuals who opposes them, and which has a perverted view of history and the the world to justify its monstrosities...

[kimon07]

and may they rot in hell, too,

YOU WILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO YOUR EMPIRE WILL YOU??? DON'T BLAME YOU. TOTAL DISGRACE!

[kimon07]

all of this is very rich coming from a man who supports a party that looks to Hitler as some sort of inspiration..........

Arbitrary assumptions, stupid conclusions. A Greek-Greek Cypriot Nationalist can never be the supporter of any Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin etc. Put it in your thick head once and for all.

[kimon07]

In a week where many CYs on both sides of the cease-fire line and elsewhere have again taken to the streets to Protest the Occupation, congratulations to Toffoui, to Kimon and to GiG for giving Lordo the way out of the messy hole he had dug for himself when he said this...

...you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next...

The most disgusting few words ever posted on CF (and Heaven knows we've had a few over the years)... words designed to spread hatred against the CY Church and against the whole group of people he calls "gc", to provoke the impressionable, to feed the hatred, in short... disgraceful, ugly and lying words against everyone in the Free Areas of the Republic and their supporters.

So well done Toffoui, Kimon and GiG for helping Lordo... now if you'll excuse me... have a need to go and join with almost all CYs who will want to throw up... over the three of you and your friend Lordo.

You better read again my initial post to Lordo:

So typical of you Lordo. You refer to the alleged killing by EOKA of a collaborator of the British outside a Greek Church and you try to link the killing to the Church of Cyprus.

And then see the post of stud just after mine, where he suggests that the beating of Menoikos was done cause of him being not a collaborator but just an AKEL sympathiser? And linking this incident to ....Golden Dawn practices???? And then read his other posts about Makarios and the other GC leaders. Now who is supporting and promoting the propaganda of Lordo that the GCs were killing unarmed people indiscriminately? You are right to feel like throwing up. I feel the same. I could never stand hypocrisy.

[kimon07]

all of this is very rich coming from a man who supports a party that looks to Hitler as some sort of inspiration, if not the spritual leader, part of movement that has always supported violence against the individuals who opposes them, and which has a perverted view of history and the the world to justify its monstrosities...

Does the above answer my points about the penalties imposed on traitors and collaborators during war time??

[GreekIslandGirl]

Matt 23:13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!..”
http://www.bible-history.com/pharisees/ ... risees.htm

Since the beginning of time, in all countries around the world, during war time, the punishment for treason, collaboration with the enemy, defection to the enemy and desertion was, is and will always be DEATH. Under a state of revolution the authority to pass judgment and order the penalty is none other than the military leadership of the revolutionaries.

Those guilty of treason, collaboration etc, are NOT fellow citizens. They are scum of the earth who tried to harm their fellow citizens and the cause of their fellow citizens and their nation as a whole for money or other cheap reasons. And therefore, they deserve to die.

As to the question whether the particular twelve (8+4) AKEL members executed by EOKA were indeed collaborators, as EOKA insists, or not, as AKEL says, my answer is very simple.

1. It is the word of the gallant freedom fighters of EOKA, against the word of the professional forgers of history such as AKEL, the TMT and the representatives of colonialism and neo-colonialism. Easy choice. I believe EOKA.

2. EOKA had no reason and no intention to be killing innocent fellow Cypriots just because they were members or followers of AKEL. Firstly, because EOKA was formed to fight the British, not to launch an anti-communist or anti-AKEL campaign. Secondly, because, contrary to what some SHIT in this forum claim or suggest, EOKA fighters and EOKA members, such as Clerides and Tassos Papadopoulos and other prominent Greek Cypriots, were not murderous thugs who enjoyed killing unarmed innocent fellow Cypriots. They were brave men who decided to die fighting alone against an Empire. Such brave men don’t murder innocent people for fun or for their political beliefs. Such were and still are the practices of the communists all over the world. Not of Freedom Fighters.

Well said.

So now we know STUD was drunk and bill cobbett gave Lordo tharos to join in against the church with more turk-inspired gossip-mongering.

[bill cobbett]

Is someone with taramasalata for brains really posting verses from the Bible in support of murder by lynch-mob...???

(anyone got any pepto-bismol...?)

[kimon07]

Is someone with taramosalata for brains really posting verses from the Bible in support of murder by lynch-mob...???

(anyone got any pepto-bismol...?)

You keep reproducing the propaganda of Lordo and AKEL. Your hatred against EOKA misguides you. There was no murder by lynching and there was not any lynching-mob. Beating up. The man was beaten up by EOKA members and tied on the tree alive. Died of heart attack according to the (British) authorities of those times. If EOKA wanted to execute him they would have shot him dead. Lynching was never a Greek way. Turkish, yes (Isaak recently). Anglo Saxon? yes. Remember the Ku-Klux-Klan? It was active until quite recently (certainly during the whole of the 50s I think even in the 60s) in the US. Right? Greek? Nope! Not aware of any lynchings commited by Greeks or Greek Cypriots. Are you? Maybe YOU can educate me as well.

Oh, Oh. Correction. Yes. there were MASS LYNCHINGS committed in Greece as well. During the civil war. But those don't count because they were not committed by Greeks. They were committed by communist tresonus thugs of the so called "Communist Part of Greece" and their mob ΕΛ.Α.Σ. as well as by Bulgarian, Albanian and Slav brothers in arms of both the Germans and of ΕΛ.Α.Σ. (see the case of the mass massacre of Meligalas).

[Lordo]

Is someone with taramasalata for brains really posting verses from the Bible in support of murder by lynch-mob...???

(anyone got any pepto-bismol...?)

you have hit the nail on the head my friend. these people are what is commonly known as two headed revionists. they make it up as they go along. you got an objection to that. how dare you sir, how very dare you, you little charlou upstart that you are. how very dare you.