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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:32 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Lordo's lies have been dealt with. Your objections stem from being unable to bring yourself to similarly condemn one of your fellow Englishmen whose lies and views run parallel to those of Lordo.

Both STUD and Lordo spread lies about EOKA.

Why do you wish to let STUD off for what you say you object to from Lordo's mouth ?


WHAT LIES HAVE I SPREAD ABOUT EOKA?

THEY MUDERED UNARMED PEOPLE IN COLD BLOOD, CYPRIOTS, WOMEN, THOSE ARE FACTS!

THAT ISWHY THEY ARE IN MY OPINION MURDERING TERRORIST SCUM.

CHURCH NOT INVOLVED? WITH THE HEAD OF THE CYPRUS CHURCH INVOLVED AS A LEADER? HOW UN-CHRISTIAN CAN HE HAVE BEEN?
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:45 pm

The traitors amongst us really should try and stay away from defending Lordo's revolting post by detracting from what was said and stop trying to re-write the chronology of this thread. The stomach-churning post appeared on the first page of this thread, well before other helpful to the enemy contributions from the CF Troika of GD who should get it in to their thick heads that this is what Lordo wrote, this is what people will read, this the faith-based and "racist" hate...

"you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next. "

No ref to eoka... it's just Church and "gcs".

Motive...??? To spread hatred.

Now, perhaps even the bird-brained amongst us will get it!

(Oh Gawd!... another stomach churning moment coming... :P )
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:03 pm

bill cobbett wrote:The traitors amongst us really should try and stay away from defending Lordo's revolting post by detracting from what was said and stop trying to re-write the chronology of this thread. The stomach-churning post appeared on the first page of this thread, well before other helpful to the enemy contributions from the CF Troika of GD who should get it in to their thick heads that this is what Lordo wrote, this is what people will read, this the faith-based and "racist" hate...

"you see what the church is like. now go back 50 years and try to imagine what they were like. tying people to a tree outside a church and stoning them to death in a true gc tradition. what ever next. "

No ref to eoka... it's just Church and "gcs".

Motive...??? To spread hatred.

Now, perhaps even the bird-brained amongst us will get it!

(Oh Gawd!... another stomach churning moment coming... :P )


Maybe Lordo was encouraged to post what he did after he read what YOU first wrote!

bill cobbett wrote:Whata loada pollocks!!!... this priest is as clueless as many on CF, he doesn't know the diff between a little bit of national pride, a little bit of harmless flag-waving... and National Socialism aka NAZISM...!!!


Why don't you show some respect to the Church before expecting a Turk to do the same.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:25 pm

Would someone please tell the nearest mahalabee for brains (cos we're not on speaking terms) to stop defending Lordo's ugly comments in any way, shape or form.

(Jees! ... Why do i have to keep repeating myself...??? ... :P )
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:23 pm

No one is defending Lordo, except STUD and no one is in direct correlation or agreement with Lordo on matters relating to the Greek Orthodox Church except you, little bill.

Good attempt at deflecting attention away from your faux pas! :D
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:53 pm

lets get back on topic which is not the events of Cyprus 50 years plus ago but the question of a Greek religieous leader supporting a party who'e founder is an avowed Hitler lover -Hitler, the man who'se Italian facist Allies invaded Greece in 1940 and who then followed up with troops in 1941, which invasion and the valient restance by the Greeks lead directly to many thousands of Greek deaths at the hands of the Nazi occupuying forces and indreectly lad to to the death of tens of thousands more through the famine that flowed from the conflict.

Quite how anyone can see Hitler as any sort role model and spritual leader for his party in the light of the History is beyond me, as is how anyone could give credibility to that party - however in my view with Hitler proclaimed as some sort of Spritual leader for the party by its founder that in my book makes it a Nazi or Neo Nazi party , for which one should be extremly cautious in giving support.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:09 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:lets get back on topic which is not the events of Cyprus 50 years plus ago but the question of a Greek religieous leader supporting a party who'e founder is an avowed Hitler lover -Hitler, the man who'se Italian facist Allies invaded Greece in 1940 and who then followed up with troops in 1941, which invasion and the valient restance by the Greeks lead directly to many thousands of Greek deaths at the hands of the Nazi occupuying forces and indreectly lad to to the death of tens of thousands more through the famine that flowed from the conflict.

Quite how anyone can see Hitler as any sort role model and spritual leader for his party in the light of the History is beyond me, as is how anyone could give credibility to that party - however in my view with Hitler proclaimed as some sort of Spritual leader for the party by its founder that in my book makes it a Nazi or Neo Nazi party , for which one should be extremly cautious in giving support.


You're pissed! :D
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:00 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:lets get back on topic which is not the events of Cyprus 50 years plus ago but the question of a Greek religieous leader supporting a party who'e founder is an avowed Hitler lover -Hitler, the man who'se Italian facist Allies invaded Greece in 1940 and who then followed up with troops in 1941, which invasion and the valient restance by the Greeks lead directly to many thousands of Greek deaths at the hands of the Nazi occupuying forces and indreectly lad to to the death of tens of thousands more through the famine that flowed from the conflict.

Quite how anyone can see Hitler as any sort role model and spritual leader for his party in the light of the History is beyond me, as is how anyone could give credibility to that party - however in my view with Hitler proclaimed as some sort of Spritual leader for the party by its founder that in my book makes it a Nazi or Neo Nazi party , for which one should be extremly cautious in giving support.


You're pissed! :D

Try again tomorrow.


Is that cheap insult the best you can manage - the small tin of Carslberg I consumed after writing the above is my only Alcoholic beverage since a half-glass o red-wine on Wednesday.

I have already provided elsewhere references to the Nazi sympathis of the GD founder, Michaloliakos

The prospect is the few in Greece have looked beyond the facade of GD- a supposedly caring facded for the Greek people - very similar in intent to to the techniques that seduced so many Germans (but never a majority) to vote for the Nazi party up to 1933, but then such parties only sem to gain support in times of exterme economic stress. Interstetingly at the last electiion I understand GD support fell, when 93% of Greeks seemingly did not support GD. Are they wrong?

I'd rather go with the majority.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:26 am

One must ask one self why was he tied outside the church. why not anywhere else. secondly why was the priest outside organising whos turn it was to throw the stone. his only crime was he was against violence and he voiced his opinion.

but i understand there is another incident where eoga walked into the church where the followers were praying. they told everybody to turn and face the wall except the priest. and they shot one akelite infornt of the priest. he gave them his blessing just before they shot him.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:45 am

neither of us are going to win friends and influence people by refering to the evils of the past, what ever they may be,

That Geneie cannot be put back in the bottle but lets worry more about the present and the future and the rise of extremists who thrive on a doctrine of hate and policies of violence eg

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/400413/20121101/neo-nazi-golden-dawn-mps-attack-migrants.htm
Golden Dawn MPs have been involved in another race attack against migrants in a central Athens neighbourhood after an immigrant allegedly stabbed a hairdresser in the area.

A group of 150 people, including an unknown number of the party's parliamentary deputies, assaulted immigrants and damaged shops in the Aghios Pantaleimonas neighbourhood, according to the Ekathimerini website.

The attack came after a foreign national allegedly attacked a hairdresser before stealing cash from his shop. The victim was taken to hospital.

Golden Dawn extremists have been involved in a number of race-related attacks on immigrants and human rights activists over recent months.

Following the spate of attacks, Greece's parliament has decided to strip three MPs from the far-right party - Panagiotis Iliopoulos, Giorgos Germenis and Ilias Kasidiaris - of their immunity from prosecution
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