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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:52 pm

There are no set rules when transliterating from one language to another. So will people kindly stop making an issue of it. :roll:

Not prescriptive!
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:55 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Kimon, notice how Lordo NATURALLY used a “g” instead of a “k” for “golo”?


Yes. He spells cypriot just like you. Wonder why? :?

Simple... we're Cypriots and you're Greek! :lol:
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:58 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:There are no set rules when transliterating from one language to another. So will people kindly stop making an issue of it. :roll:

Not prescriptive!


let them enjoy arguing about their shibboleths (or sibboleths) as the case may be.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby kimon07 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:52 am

Cap wrote:Ok, pidgin Cypriot then.

All I know is that I understood him perfectly even with the 'Latinized' spelling.


Latinized spelling? Of Greek???? Christ!

You probably mean greeklish. Right? Please say YES.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby kurupetos » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:22 am

Cap wrote:Ok, pidgin Cypriot then.

All I know is that I understood him perfectly even with the 'Latinized' spelling.

:lol: Why? Because...

Louroujina was one of the largest Turkish Cypriot villages of Cyprus and until 1974 it had around 2,000 inhabitants. The village is located in the district of Nicosia, about 25 km southeast of the capital. It is linked with the villages of Dali, Potamia, and Lympia. Today its in the Turkish-occupied area of ​​the island. Louroujina was the center of the Linobambaki because the villagers were in their majority Linobambaki ie cryptochristians.

Until the 1930's they were secretly baptized Christian and had secret Christian names but out in the open they were Muslims and had Turkish names. They also spoke only Greek because they did not know Turkish.

Originally the village was inhabited by Latins and Maronites but with the Ottoman conquest of Cyprus they were forced to register either as Muslim (Turkish) or Orthodox Christians (Greek). Those who were wealthy registered as Orthodox Christians while the poor, who were the majority, registered as Muslims in order to escape the Ottoman taxes put on Christians. They, however, secretly kept their Christian faith and to this day they speak Greek as their native language, and even kept their Latin surnames.

However, after the campaigns of their "Turkification" by successive Rauf Denktash governments, they were given Turkish surnames, and were discouraged from speaking the Greek language, while the name of the village was changed to Akıncılar (''raiders'') since 1958.

Until the late 50', Louroujina was a mixed village, but the Linobambaki (Turkish Muslims) were always in the majority. During the Ottoman census of 1831, the Muslim (Turkish Cypriot) percentage of the population was almost 81%. In 1891 this percentage increased to 88%.

Throughout the British period the Turkish Cypriot population continued to grow, while the Greek Cypriot declined. By 1960, there were only three Greek Cypriots living in the village. After the Turkish invasion of 1974, many of Louroujina's Linobambaki were transferred to the village of Lysi by the Ntenktas regime and today the village has only about 450 residents left.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby Lordo » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:46 am

total rubbish. stop insulting decent folk you hear.

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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:28 am

kurupetos wrote:
Louroujina was one of the largest Turkish Cypriot villages of Cyprus and until 1974 it had around 2,000 inhabitants. The village is located in the district of Nicosia, about 25 km southeast of the capital. It is linked with the villages of Dali, Potamia, and Lympia. Today its in the Turkish-occupied area of ​​the island. Louroujina was the center of the Linobambaki because the villagers were in their majority Linobambaki ie cryptochristians.

Until the 1930's they were secretly baptized Christian and had secret Christian names but out in the open they were Muslims and had Turkish names. They also spoke only Greek because they did not know Turkish.

Originally the village was inhabited by Latins and Maronites but with the Ottoman conquest of Cyprus they were forced to register either as Muslim (Turkish) or Orthodox Christians (Greek). Those who were wealthy registered as Orthodox Christians while the poor, who were the majority, registered as Muslims in order to escape the Ottoman taxes put on Christians. They, however, secretly kept their Christian faith and to this day they speak Greek as their native language, and even kept their Latin surnames.

However, after the campaigns of their "Turkification" by successive Rauf Denktash governments, they were given Turkish surnames, and were discouraged from speaking the Greek language, while the name of the village was changed to Akıncılar (''raiders'') since 1958.

Until the late 50', Louroujina was a mixed village, but the Linobambaki (Turkish Muslims) were always in the majority. During the Ottoman census of 1831, the Muslim (Turkish Cypriot) percentage of the population was almost 81%. In 1891 this percentage increased to 88%.

Throughout the British period the Turkish Cypriot population continued to grow, while the Greek Cypriot declined. By 1960, there were only three Greek Cypriots living in the village. After the Turkish invasion of 1974, many of Louroujina's Linobambaki were transferred to the village of Lysi by the Ntenktas regime and today the village has only about 450 residents left.


Thx for the above Toffoui... things are a lot clearer now.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:36 am

... and another contribution, this from a Lurishitigina source ...

According to the book Historic Cyprus by Rupert Gunnis (Kemal Rustem & Bro. Edition), the village was the centre of the Linobambaki. In the same book a discription of the Linobambaki is as follows:

"...Linobambaki, that is, linen and cotton, a figurative expression which means a combination of Christian and Mussulman. While to outward appearance they are Turks, and are so recognized by the local aύuthorities, in reality they are Christians whose ancestors, at the time of the Turkish conquest, were forced to declare themselves Mussulmans and to embrace Islamism in order to save their lives and property. Many, if not all of them, had been adherents of the Latin Church, though it is still frequently a matter of dispute between the Greek bishops and the Latin priests as to which Church they rightfully belong to, each Church being desirous of claiming them as its adherents. The marriage and baptismal ceremonies of the Linobambaki are performed in secret by a priest of their choice. On the birth of a male child the rite of circumcision is evaded by means of a present of money to the Hodja. They adopt such names for their sons as are common to both Christian and Moslem, such as Ibrahim (Abraham), Moussa(Moses), Yusuf (Joseph),... etc."

Very revealing... :D ... and amusing... :lol:
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:58 am

...nice, thank-you.
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Re: Bishop Ambrosios Says Golden Dawn, The Only "Hope"

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:02 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...nice, thank-you.


You're very welcome RW... now about that apology Lordo...???
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