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[Demonax]

Well... how about the Pipo....?

And a keyboard would cost you £8 so you'd still have £150 in your pocket!

Are you nuts? 139 pounds for that pile of crap? Crap display, crap build, crap speaker, crap software, crap apps, crap wi-fi, crap battery, crap camera, crap service and the touchscreen doesn't work.

You guys kill me. Just do yourself a favour. Save a bit more money and get a bloody iPad Mini. It costs 269 pounds which is nothing for such a great piece of kit.

Don't take my word for it you cheapskates. Read some reviews. Pipo, my arse!

Oh dear fanboy, you really are making a fool of yourself now...

Here, I've just done a big shit in the shape of an apple - send me €500 and I'll mail it to you...

Hey grumpy. You are the one prepared to spend 139 pounds on a pile of crap Pipo tablet, you old cheapskate. I'm trying to do you a favour and stop you wasting your money. It's a false economy. You pay for crap you end up with crap.Just get an iPad mini and stop messing about. Life is too short. Live a little. You can't take it with you, you know.

[cyprusgrump]

Well... how about the Pipo....?

And a keyboard would cost you £8 so you'd still have £150 in your pocket!

Are you nuts? 139 pounds for that pile of crap? Crap display, crap build, crap speaker, crap software, crap apps, crap wi-fi, crap battery, crap camera, crap service and the touchscreen doesn't work.

You guys kill me. Just do yourself a favour. Save a bit more money and get a bloody iPad Mini. It costs 269 pounds which is nothing for such a great piece of kit.

Don't take my word for it you cheapskates. Read some reviews. Pipo, my arse!

Oh dear fanboy, you really are making a fool of yourself now...

Here, I've just done a big shit in the shape of an apple - send me €500 and I'll mail it to you...

Hey grumpy. You are the one prepared to spend 139 pounds on a pile of crap Pipo tablet, you old cheapskate. I'm trying to do you a favour and stop you wasting your money. It's a false economy. You pay for crap you end up with crap.Just get an iPad mini and stop messing about. Life is too short. Live a little. You can't take it with you, you know.

You don't get it do you...?

For starters it has a smaller screen than the Pipo and costs twice as much...

So, I can buy a Pipo today (which has a stunning 9.7" IPS display, dual core 1.6GHz processor 1G RAM and 16G flash) and in a couple of years time buy another tablet of the latest specification for the same money.

Meanwhile, the Apple fanboys will be squinting at their 7" display and watching everybody else outpace them in technology and specifications...

As has been said earlier on this thread, if you have money to throw away on a label then go ahead - good for you. Back here in the real world people are more interested in value for money - and buying a £300 tablet instead of a £150 that will do the job they need just because it has an Apple label simply doesn't make sense.

Fanboys...

[FragnaticDeath]

Who the hell builds their own computer these days,

A lot of people build their own computers. I have been building my own PCs since the age of 13 and now I'm 25.

Hours piecing it together, then after installing Windows, updating drivers, you get all those hundreds of security updates.

Hours? So what! I rather spend 5-6 hours building it up and enjoy playing with my "LEGO" pieces. Is there men out there who don't like DIY?
Installing windows takes about 15 minutes. Updating drivers and security updates take about 2 hours, but it still doesn't prevent you from using your computer while doing it. It is all automatic.

And then spending a week troubleshooting the inevitable driver issue.

Never had a problem with driver issues. And I had over 7 systems until now

Followed by hardware faults, annoying blue screen of death, components overheating, and software getting corrupted to the point you have to keep upgrading.

Both of this exist in MACs and PCs. My last BSOD must have been 4-5 years ago. Components overheating? Never happened, I guess I know how to clean and take of my computer. Software corruption happens to any kind of software.

Haven't you outgrown that nonsense yet? Who needs it? Give me a beautifully designed Mac. Open the box, plug it in and it works. And I don't have to stare at that ugly Windows OS every day. That is worth €€ to me.

What nosense? Please elaborate! And define what is beautiful when we are talking about OS.

And here....

Check the overpricing. If you had any idea or clue about hardware or software you would be able to logically distinguish. Examples:

SSD 512GB: 750 pounds and each additional one 850 pounds. Buying it from an online retailer 450 pounds. Savings?
Display Apple cinema display: 900 pounds. For that kind of money you can get a Dell Ultrasharp U3011 which crashes it!

http://store.apple.com/uk-business/configure/MD770B/A?

Just do not fool yourself. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and only care about the aesthetics of products instead of performance, efficiency and value of money.

[boomerang]

evreyone is gunning for them, but only mocrosoft and intel will drive the final nail in the coffin...

wasn't long ago microsooft bailed apple out of bankrupsy...i do not think they will be doing it again...

how can anyone compete with microsoft and intel?...microsoft owns the platforms, desktop, server and gaming...and intel owns the hardware...

Sorry, Boomerang, I couldn't make much sense out of your post. But I think you said that Apple is going to go bankrupt and Microsoft and Intel are about to finish them off. What evidence do you have for this?

oh demonax, clearly reading and comprehending to you are 2 separate issues...a classic symptom of an apple user as proven thus far...

now where did i say apple will go bankruprt and then we will get to the evidence...

but did you know apple was bailed out by the devil himself?...gates...a then a mild kick in the balls for the fanboys...

but the real heavy duty kick in the balls will be coming in january....with the introduction of the surface running win 8 pro with an intel i5 and the ivy chipset, they reckon between $800 -$900...this will steamroll not only the ipad but half the mac range...

what do you think apple will do to combat all this?...oh yes more iwhatever apps...

while 80% of the world is using office the fanboys are claiming iworks....what the hell is that?...and lets not forget the dropkickbox...yeah thats gonna cut it, as long as it's for free...

but hey we got demonax using dropkick and using iworks....surely this is spelling the end of microsoft and intel...hmmm

what you failed to understand is microsoft today exclusively owns and controls more than 80% the server market, the operating system, the applications, a gaming platform and shelled out heaps of bucks for skype, read computer telephony...and you are sitting there telling us microsoft is in a real dilemma?...

Microsoft faces a dilemma. Their business model of expensive software on cheap hardware is not sustainable. The future is nearly free software integrated into moderately priced hardware. That is why Microsoft has decided to compete with the manufacturers that have been its partners since the dawn of the PC era.

wow man...the word is throw away because it changes so quick...you have an ipad 3 i pressume well there is a 4 now... ...as grumpy said, do the job as cheap as possible and get the latest toorrow, on the cheap again...but then again how could apple survive?...

Here is another little secret for you...to the US government microsoft is more valuable than apple will ever be...do you know why....

apple shares dropped from max $705 to around $550...in under 2 months...any idea as to why?...i don't know maybe samsung outselling them on phones with a much better phone perhaps, or maybe microsoft with the kick in the balls announcement and getting close to the release date?...but they got you for life though...that's plus in its own rights...right?...

Microsoft Surface is not fundamentally about Microsoft needing to control the entire integrated product in order to compete with the iPad on design. It's about Microsoft needing to sell the whole thing to sustain its current profitability.

they can sustain thre profitability till the cows come home...is there an alternative that controls server software, operating systems, applications, VOIP via the purchase of skype and a gaming platform?...well is there?...what ever price they ask they seemed to get it...they do not need to do shit ti sustain anything...revamping windows every 2 years seems to do the trick these days...what they are doing is adding to the profitability with an 80% plus world captive audience...this is what they are doing...no one cares about your iwhatever and dropkick...or you think the ipad is gonna replace all these?...or maybe IOS what ever number?...

BTW demonax, since i provided links to support what i am saying and you demading more for what I wasn't saying, how about you provide some links to see where you are coming from...

I hoped i simpified it for you...this time i monotasked...for you benefit...

Once you get used to working this way on an iPad using wifi and streaming it makes sense why Apple has designed the iPad to work like this.

i could see your simplistic point of view of how the world spins around but i would rather do things my way thank you very much...a sheep i ain't...
as i said earlier tablet users fall in the i want to be looked upon as a serious computer user therefore i need an ipad and iphone...and maybe a mac for when visitors come around...its a conversation starter...with visitors...

fans boys do leave in their little world don't they?...my rooted samsung galaxy S2 runs hoops around any tablet ipad can dish out, with connectivity and flexibility, something incoherent to an apple user...

stop living n denial for ffs...come out its a new world out there...

[cyprusgrump]

Good post Boomers...

I can just see Demonax sitting at home on his iWhatever... wearing his "Steve Jobs RIP" tee-shirt....

He let you down didn't he Demonax...?

[boomerang]

Good post Boomers...

I can just see Demonax sitting at home on his iWhatever... wearing his "Steve Jobs RIP" tee-shirt....

He let you down didn't he Demonax...?

You don’t need to be the first to be innovative: Apple lets others Fail first.

if this wasn't enough here comes the gem...comes jan 2013 with the surface running i5 and ivy chipset with win 8 pro the master will show the juvenille how is done...in the words of our famous demonax microsoft just waited till apple failed ...once again apple caught up in its own bullshit...and the pouncer not only got pounced but got a nasty kick in the balls...just to say thank you...
think about it, with this tablet the ipad and half the macs are crusified...

[B25]

Boomers, didn't you say you were the biggest apple accessory distributor in aussie?
Just wondered why you are slating Appe so much. Or have you now turned micosoft? Just wondered like.

[Demonax]

So, I can buy a Pipo today (which has a stunning 9.7" IPS display, dual core 1.6GHz processor 1G RAM and 16G flash) and in a couple of years time buy another tablet of the latest specification for the same money.

Grumpy old chap. It's a cheap knock-off made with cheap components with a dodgy UI, Chinese bloatware, poor screen, lousy wifi and mediocre battery life. Why do you think it's so cheap? But if I were you, I'd buy it because I reckon these things don't bother you. You'll reckon you have bought a top quality product. Like those tourists in London who buy fake perfume from a bloke in Oxford Street thinking they have bought the real thing. Good luck! But don't say I didn't warn you.

[Demonax]

Just do not fool yourself. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and only care about the aesthetics of products instead of performance, efficiency and value of money.

You are just being silly. Aesthetics is nothing without usabilty, efficiency and performance. If Apple provided great looking products that are poor to use no-one would buy them. That is why Apple reported just over $13 billion in quarterly profit, which is more than Google’s entire revenue, and the second most profit any company has ever recorded in a single quarter. The iPad is not just a beautiful piece of design it's also the fastest tablet with the best screen, the best UI and the most efficient battery life. Do you get it now?

[cyprusgrump]

So, I can buy a Pipo today (which has a stunning 9.7" IPS display, dual core 1.6GHz processor 1G RAM and 16G flash) and in a couple of years time buy another tablet of the latest specification for the same money.

Grumpy old chap. It's a cheap knock-off made with cheap components with a dodgy UI, Chinese bloatware, poor screen, lousy wifi and mediocre battery life. Why do you think it's so cheap? But if I were you, I'd buy it because I reckon these things don't bother you. You'll reckon you have bought a top quality product. Like those tourists in London who buy fake perfume from a bloke in Oxford Street thinking they have bought the real thing. Good luck! But don't say I didn't warn you.

I take it you have actually used on then...?