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[cyprusgrump]

You Fandroids do like your specs. So let's check that again:

Apple iPad 4 2082
Apple iPad 3 1801
Google Nexus 10 1353
Samsung Galaxy S3 635.3
Samsung Galaxy S2 395


For more equally disturbing results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad ... r-the-hood

Says iDemonax who claimed that benchmarks and performance were not an issue when it came to the iPad Mini!

I just found this when I was looking up AnTuTu results...

Frankly people, we can’t help but wonder in awe about the aggressive pricing attached to the Google Nexus 10. Sure, it might not have the premium build of the iPad 4, nor its mightier camera taking capabilities, but when it proves to be the productivity conscious tablet between the two, aided by the new enhancements of Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, it definitely screams more value for the buck. At the moment, we can agree that there are more tablet-optimized third party apps on the iPad, but as always, that gap is lessening as time passes. With a starting price point that $100 less than the iPad 4, the Nexus 10 still manages to enthrall with its magnificent high resolution display, easy video-out functionality, and battery longevity.

Oh dears....

[Demonax]

Says iDemonax who claimed that benchmarks and performance were not an issue when it came to the iPad Mini!

They're not an issue. If you want the top of the range iPad you get the iPad 4. If you want a smaller iPad, you get the iPad Mini. Some people are willing to trade performance for a more convenient size and cheaper price. It's not rocket-science, grumpy.

I just found this when I was looking up AnTuTu results...

Frankly people, we can’t help but wonder in awe about the aggressive pricing attached to the Google Nexus 10. Sure, it might not have the premium build of the iPad 4, nor its mightier camera taking capabilities, but when it proves to be the productivity conscious tablet between the two, aided by the new enhancements of Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, it definitely screams more value for the buck. At the moment, we can agree that there are more tablet-optimized third party apps on the iPad, but as always, that gap is lessening as time passes.

If you want a cheaper Android tablet go for it. The top of the pile iPad 4 only costs 80 pounds more than the Nexus 10 with almost double the performance across most of the Anandtech tests. That's not a big premium for the best performing tablet, the best app ecosystem, best customer service, better camera and better build quality. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

[cyprusgrump]

They're not an issue. If you want the top of the range iPad you get the iPad 4. If you want a smaller iPad, you get the iPad Mini. Some people are willing to trade performance for a more convenient size and cheaper price. It's not rocket-science, grumpy.

So, why do you keep posting benchmarks oh iRocket scientist?

Answer: You post them because you think it shows Apple products in a good light and we'll all rush out and buy them...

Yet when somebody posts a benchmark showing an Apple product in a poor light (the iPad Mini), benchmarks are irrelevant.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up... You are so transparent...

[Demonax]

They're not an issue. If you want the top of the range iPad you get the iPad 4. If you want a smaller iPad, you get the iPad Mini. Some people are willing to trade performance for a more convenient size and cheaper price. It's not rocket-science, grumpy.

So, why do you keep posting benchmarks oh iRocket scientist?

Answer: You post them because you think it shows Apple products in a good light and we'll all rush out and buy them...

Yet when somebody posts a benchmark showing an Apple product in a poor light (the iPad Mini), benchmarks are irrelevant.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up... You are so transparent...

Grumpy, no-one is buying the iPad Mini because it's the fastest iPad. They are buying it because it's cheaper and smaller. It's still very capable, well-built, runs all the apps you'll likely need and some people prefer the convenient form factor. It's about the user experience. However, I know that you fandroids like your specs so I published those from Anandtech which show that the iPad 4 is the best performing tablet on the market.

But you shouldn't base your buying decision on specs alone. Also consider build quality, apps, software, camera, customer support etc. And if you figure that paying 80 pounds more than the best Android tablet is worth it, then you should consider an iPad. If your budget only stretches to a Nexus 10, then you are getting a capable machine I'm sure. But it's just not for me because for the same money I'd choose an iPad 3 or an iPad Mini. Like I said, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

[cyprusgrump]

They're not an issue. If you want the top of the range iPad you get the iPad 4. If you want a smaller iPad, you get the iPad Mini. Some people are willing to trade performance for a more convenient size and cheaper price. It's not rocket-science, grumpy.

So, why do you keep posting benchmarks oh iRocket scientist?

Answer: You post them because you think it shows Apple products in a good light and we'll all rush out and buy them...

Yet when somebody posts a benchmark showing an Apple product in a poor light (the iPad Mini), benchmarks are irrelevant.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up... You are so transparent...

Grumpy, no-one is buying the iPad Mini because it's the fastest iPad. They are buying it because it's cheaper and smaller. It's still very capable, well-built, runs all the apps you'll likely need and some people prefer the convenient form factor. It's about the user experience. However, I know that you fandroids like your specs so I published those from Anandtech which show that the iPad 4 is the best performing tablet on the market.

But you shouldn't base your buying decision on specs alone. Also consider build quality, apps, software, camera, customer support etc. And if you figure that paying 80 pounds more than the best Android tablet is worth it, then you should consider an iPad. If your budget only stretches to a Nexus 10, then you are getting a capable machine I'm sure. But it's just not for me because for the same money I'd choose an iPad 3 or an iPad Mini. Like I said, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

No.

You see, if you read back through this thread that is the second time you've dragged this benchmark out...

It was you that produced benchmarks to show how 'superior' your Apple products were...

It was when somebody posted a benchmark showing the iPad Mini to be... well, not the fastest that you came up with the line that benchmarks and performance were not important....

You can't have it both ways - either the performance of your beloved iPads are important or the features and benefits are important...

How transparent you are iDemonax - like a pane of glass!

[Demonax]

You see, if you read back through this thread that is the second time you've dragged this benchmark out...

It was you that produced benchmarks to show how 'superior' your Apple products were...

It was when somebody posted a benchmark showing the iPad Mini to be... well, not the fastest that you came up with the line that benchmarks and performance were not important....

You can't have it both ways - either the performance of your beloved iPads are important or the features and benefits are

Grumpy, are you on drugs or something? Can't you get it into your skull that just because the iPad 4 has superior benchmarks, it doesn't necessarily follow that the iPad Mini, a smaller, cheaper, iPad is going to also have the best benchmarks. It would be nice. But that doesn't mean the iPad mini is not worth buying. There are other factors to consider.

If all people were interested in was benchmarks then everybody would just buy the iPad 4. But not everyone can afford an iPad 4 or wants a 10 inch screen. I've got an iPad 3 but I'm not going to sell it and get an iPad 4 just because it's no longer the fastest tablet on the planet! That would be childish. Be happy with what you've got. Personally, I'd be happy with an iPad Mini. It's a really great machine.

[FragnaticDeath]

Demonax are you a moron or plain stupid? Those Benchmarks are for the GPU. Who the hell buys a tablet just to play games?

[boomerang]

this is why microsoft penciled Jan for their release of the surface win 8 tablet...running INTEL i5, IVY bridge chipset and running a real win 8 PRO operating system...in the form of a tablet...same experience as the desktop...this not only will knock off the tablets/ipads but it will re-shake the notebook market as well...i foresee endangering the mac market as well...we are witnessing the re-modelling of the notebook maket.

Are you Steve Ballmer in disguise? They’re going to cost as much as an Ultrabook, but users get a smaller screen, impractical keyboard and poor battery life. Microsoft said it would start at a minimum of $1,000. You do the math… two iPads for the price of one Surface? I don’t think so.

Few people will adopt a tablet because it works with Microsoft Office. Google Android and Amazon offerings will continue to be less expensive alternatives to the iPad, while Apple will maintain its market lead on the high end. Between these alternatives, there don't seem to be much room for Microsoft.

you talk shit and you know it...here read and wheep...
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234142/Surface_Pro_tablet_pricing_starts_at_899_Microsoft_says?taxonomyId=15

why would anyone buy a useless 64GB ipad when you can have a fully blown computer?...that gives you the same experience as the desktop...

as i said earlier, this briliant move, kick in the balls, will take care of a couple of macs as well...sweet dreams fanboys...

[cyprusgrump]

You see, if you read back through this thread that is the second time you've dragged this benchmark out...

It was you that produced benchmarks to show how 'superior' your Apple products were...

It was when somebody posted a benchmark showing the iPad Mini to be... well, not the fastest that you came up with the line that benchmarks and performance were not important....

You can't have it both ways - either the performance of your beloved iPads are important or the features and benefits are

Grumpy, are you on drugs or something? Can't you get it into your skull that just because the iPad 4 has superior benchmarks, it doesn't necessarily follow that the iPad Mini, a smaller, cheaper, iPad is going to also have the best benchmarks. It would be nice. But that doesn't mean the iPad mini is not worth buying. There are other factors to consider.

If all people were interested in was benchmarks then everybody would just buy the iPad 4. But not everyone can afford an iPad 4 or wants a 10 inch screen. I've got an iPad 3 but I'm not going to sell it and get an iPad 4 just because it's no longer the fastest tablet on the planet! That would be childish. Be happy with what you've got. Personally, I'd be happy with an iPad Mini. It's a really great machine.

You deliberately miss the point again - because you are busted!

The point being that you roll out benchmarks to prove how wonderful iPads are - but when an iPad is shown to be woefully inadequate on another benchmark you claim that benchmarks are not important - then produce the original benchmark to show how wonderful iPads are!

Oh... and do you remember that you also said that the iPad Mini would be a great machine when it had the Retina screen? But now it is 'a really great machine'!

Consistency is important...

iDemonax = transparent Apple fanboy!

[Demonax]

The point being that you roll out benchmarks to prove how wonderful iPads are - but when an iPad is shown to be woefully inadequate on another benchmark you claim that benchmarks are not important - then produce the original benchmark to show how wonderful iPads are!

Oh... and do you remember that you also said that the iPad Mini would be a great machine when it had the Retina screen? But now it is 'a really great machine'!

Consistency is important...

Grumpy, mate. The iPad Mini is a great machine without a retina screen. I've had the chance to check one out and if truth be told it was a fantastic machine. It would be a perfect machine for me with the retina screen because I do a lot of reading on my iPad and I've been spoilt by the stunning display on my iPad 3. But right now, it's a trade off. You can buy top of the range, high-spec iPad 4 with retina screen starting at 399 pounds. Or the very desirable and gorgeous iPad Mini at 269 pounds. It depends what you want and what your budget is.

I’m not in the market for an iPad right now as I've got an iPad 3 with retina screen. If somebody was looking for a tablet for casual use, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the iPad mini. It's smaller form factor has its advantages if you're prepared to forego the retina screen, larger size and extra performance of the iPad 3 or 4.

You can also get a cheaper Android tablet including some rather nasty-looking Chinese knock-offs. But personally they're not for me, for reasons I've mentioned before.