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[Get Real!]

Talking of math co-processors that used to sell for a fortune, I have just skipped about 20x 80387, on the basis they were obsolete technology that no one wanted.

The math coprocessor is not obsolete you Turnip! These days it’s built into the main processor.

[B25]

Talking of math co-processors that used to sell for a fortune, I have just skipped about 20x 80387, on the basis they were obsolete technology that no one wanted.

The math coprocessor is not obsolete you Turnip! These days it’s built into the main processor.

Mate get you ZX81 out, it may help you comprehen what I mean't. You are so funny talking about 80x86 devices when the world has moved on in the last 15 years from them.

Never mind, maybe you need to get out of the basement more.

[supporttheunderdog]

The mind just boggles trying to work out how big a mobile phone would have to be if it was built around the old style 80286 chip with a separate 80287 - the batteries needed to approach modern air-time capability would probbaly require a suitcase to hold them on their own.......

[cyprusgrump]

This was my first mobile!

[Get Real!]

The mind just boggles trying to work out how big a mobile phone would have to be if it was built around the old style 80286 chip with a separate 80287 - the batteries needed to approach modern air-time capability would probbaly require a suitcase to hold them on their own.......

You’re not making much sense…

Both the 80286 and the 80287 (co-processor) are about the size of a postage stamp so the phone’s case would be about the same size! Of course you could always use the 80386DX which had the maths coprocessor built in… again the size of a postage stamp.

In a “smartphone” you’d only be using 0.1% of the 80286 chip’s potential. Most of the pins of the 80286 would be unused!

Anyway, you lot should go back to discussing which one’s got the cutest facebook button because that’s as far as this group’s knowledge on these things will permit.

[cyprusgrump]

I just ordered my tablet!

No 8MHz 80286 option I'm afraid - had to stick with the standard Cortex-A9 dual-core running @ 1.6GHz...

[Get Real!]

I just ordered my tablet!

No 8MHz 80286 option I'm afraid - had to stick with the standard Cortex-A9 dual-core running @ 1.6GHz...

You could probably take 4-5 pins of the 80286’s 68pins and have the same functions as your Cortex-A9 dual-core!

And I wouldn’t even worry about putting a fan & heatsink on the 80286 if it was used in a “smartphone” because most of its transistors would be sitting there doing nothing and would hence generate very little or no heat! With such minimal use I’ll bet it would run fast too!

[Demonax]

If that was the answer then why Apple makes iPads with 32 and 64GB capacities? Dropbox needs good internet connection at all times to be useful and after a few GB you need to pay a monthly fee to have it.

Google's Nexus devices don't offer an SD card slot either. If you really want to use an SD card reader with an iPad, Apple offers up the Camera Connection Kit which allows you to transfer full-resolution photos and videos from your digital camera to your iPad by USB or SD card. Everyone else uses Dropbox, iCloud or iTunes sync to get stuff on and off the iPad. Dropbox offers 5gb of free storage as does iCloud which is plenty for everyday use.

So if you could download the full kindle App directly from Amazon you wouldn't do it? Why wouldn't you want to have the OPTION to download apps from elsewhere if you want to? Their own appstore could still be the default and you could use it as you use it now... but limiting you to their own appstore is a huge disadvantage for iOS.

The Appstore is convenient, secure and cheap. The quality and range of apps on the app store is by common consent one of the best things about using ioS. It's incredibly popular. The App Store is controlled by Apple. But iOS has MobileSafari, through which anyone can do whatever they want.

But I agree that iPad / iPhone have much more accessories ... this is one of the few real benefits of iOS devices.

The reason IOS devices are selling in their millions is not just because they have better accessories. It's because of the great user experience, slick software matched with a great design and performance. Of course you pay a premium for that. But you get what you pay for.

[Sotos]

Android devices are selling more millions because with Android you get more than what you pay for Nexus devices might not offer SD slot, but many Android devices do. Android gives you the option. Same with ability to install any app you want without big brother restrictions. Android is about freedom and options. iOS is closed and restricted.

[Demonax]

Android is about freedom and options. iOS is closed and restricted.

Android was “open” only until it became popular and handset makers dependent upon it. Now that Google has the handset makers where it wants them, Android is no longer open and Google starts asserting control:

Do Not Anger the Alpha Android
Playtime is over in Android Land. Over the last couple of months Google has reached out to the major carriers and device makers backing its mobile operating system with a message: There will be no more willy-nilly tweaks to the software. No more partnerships formed outside of Google's purview. From now on, companies hoping to receive early access to Google's most up-to-date software will need approval of their plans. And they will seek that approval from Andy Rubin, the head of Google's Android group.

Google has been demanding that Android licensees abide by "non-fragmentation clauses" that give Google the final say on how they can tweak the Android code—to make new interfaces and add services—and in some cases whom they can partner with.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... 200216.htm

The only difference between Google and Apple is that Google are shameless, lying hypocrites.