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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:02 am

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Sotos wrote:Today smartphones are as powerful as the average pc was some years ago. Smartphones are computers that you can fit in your pocket and take anywhere. And not just that. they are also radios, gps, cameras etc all in one small device that fits in your pocket! And you can have such device for under 150 euro !

Dude, they haven’t even matched Windows v1.0 yet! :roll:

my old sony erricson feature phone has more power than computers which were running windows 1.0 :wink:

It's your imagination! Are you familiar with the Intel instruction set? Do you know what opcodes are?
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:11 am

Hello? Box boy are you there? You haven’t got time now to read the Intel instruction set! :roll: :lol:
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:14 am

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:Today smartphones are as powerful as the average pc was some years ago. Smartphones are computers that you can fit in your pocket and take anywhere. And not just that. they are also radios, gps, cameras etc all in one small device that fits in your pocket! And you can have such device for under 150 euro !

Dude, they haven’t even matched Windows v1.0 yet! :roll:

my old sony erricson feature phone has more power than computers which were running windows 1.0 :wink:

It's your imagination! Are you familiar with the Intel instruction set? Do you know what opcodes are?


all cpus have instruction sets... so what's your point? That an Intel 8MHz CPU from the 80s is faster than ARM CPUs of current generation smartphones... which are at least 600MHz and can be quad core 1.5GHz and more? :lol:
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby boomerang » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:20 am

they probably are...on single tasks...don't forget the space shuttle was running on commodore computers performing single tasks...i believe intel is still making the 8088 cpu for specific applications...

but this trhread is not about win 1.0...it would be impossible to fit an 80286 in back pack..and use it without power... :lol:

and hoy any new features on your phone?...i like remeniscing... :lol:
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:35 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:Today smartphones are as powerful as the average pc was some years ago. Smartphones are computers that you can fit in your pocket and take anywhere. And not just that. they are also radios, gps, cameras etc all in one small device that fits in your pocket! And you can have such device for under 150 euro !

Dude, they haven’t even matched Windows v1.0 yet! :roll:

my old sony erricson feature phone has more power than computers which were running windows 1.0 :wink:

It's your imagination! Are you familiar with the Intel instruction set? Do you know what opcodes are?


all cpus have instruction sets... so what's your point? That an Intel 8MHz CPU from the 80s is faster than ARM CPUs of current generation smartphones... which are at least 600MHz and can be quad core 1.5GHz and more? :lol:

Are you kidding me? :lol:

How many graphics resolutions can your shit box switch into? It’s only got a preset shitty 5x5cm screen and pissy resolution to match! So much for its "programmable" GPU! :roll:

How many disk controller types can your shitbox recognize and utilize? Only ONE… it’s file storage technology is similar to your USB stick! So much for its "programmable" disk controller and disk I/O capabilities! :roll:

How many input devices can your shibox interface with? Next to nothing! :lol:

How much memory and what memory types can your shitbox handle? A single midget-sized laughable proprietary type! :lol:

And you call that a processor and compare it with an 80286? Are you serious??? :?
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 am

boomerang wrote:they probably are...on single tasks...don't forget the space shuttle was running on commodore computers performing single tasks...


They used what they had available. MHz for MHz intel is much faster than ARM CPUs used in phones but it is nonsense to say that 8MHz intel from the 80s is faster than 1GHZ ARM from today. Smartphones today have as much power as an average PC had about a decade ago. Maybe GR thinks that intel CPUs are not used in smartphones because intel thinks that smartphones are shitboxes :lol: Intel is trying very hard to make low power CPUs that can be used in phones and tablets.
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:57 am

Get Real! wrote:Are you kidding me? :lol:

How many graphics resolutions can your shit box switch into? It’s only got a preset shitty 5x5cm screen and pissy resolution to match! So much for its "programmable" GPU! :roll:

How many disk controller types can your shitbox recognize and utilize? Only ONE… it’s file storage technology is similar to your USB stick! So much for its "programmable" disk controller and disk I/O capabilities! :roll:

How many input devices can your shibox interface with? Next to nothing! :lol:

How much memory and what memory types can your shitbox handle? A single midget-sized laughable proprietary type! :lol:

And you call that a processor and compare it with an 80286? Are you serious??? :?


There are smartphones with full HD screens and with HDMI out you can output to any modern display if you want to. What is the max resolution of your 80286? Can it play HD video? You can add SD card for added storage (up to 64GB) and you can connect with USB to external drives. How much slow mechanical Hard drive space does you 80286 have? You can have as many input devices as you want with USB and Bluetooth. And smartphones today come 1GB of memory and even more .. how much memory does your 80286 have? :roll: A modern smartphone is way more powerful than an ancient 80286 PC and it can fit in your pocket. There is NO comparison ;)
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Sotos wrote:
boomerang wrote:they probably are...on single tasks...don't forget the space shuttle was running on commodore computers performing single tasks...


They used what they had available. MHz for MHz intel is much faster than ARM CPUs used in phones but it is nonsense to say that 8MHz intel from the 80s is faster than 1GHZ ARM from today. Smartphones today have as much power as an average PC had about a decade ago. Maybe GR thinks that intel CPUs are not used in smartphones because intel thinks that smartphones are shitboxes :lol: Intel is trying very hard to make low power CPUs that can be used in phones and tablets.

For starters, the 80286 was 16bit… you’re thinking of the 8086 (8bit).

But anyway, the processors used in shitboxes are not fully programmable processors like the one in your PC.

They are cut-down proprietary chips with pretty much everything preset for the box it’s meant to run so there’s no comparison and it’s daft to assume that they are more powerful than an 80286 which was FULLY programmable.

Let me give you an example…

I can “train” the 80286 (via assembly language) how to handle a new type of hard disk technology (write a device driver) provided I explain to it how to detect and communicate with it, but you cannot program the processors of hand-helds to recognize new technologies like that. They don’t have an open architecture so these chips are very cheap and easy to produce.
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:19 pm

Sotos wrote:There are smartphones with full HD screens and with HDMI out you can output to any modern display if you want to. What is the max resolution of your 80286? Can it play HD video? You can add SD card for added storage (up to 64GB) and you can connect with USB to external drives. How much slow mechanical Hard drive space does you 80286 have? You can have as many input devices as you want with USB and Bluetooth. And smartphones today come 1GB of memory and even more .. how much memory does your 80286 have? :roll: A modern smartphone is way more powerful than an ancient 80286 PC and it can fit in your pocket. There is NO comparison ;)

It’s not how high a resolution the 80286 could handle that I’m talking about but HOW MANY video outputting technologies it could handle such as…

CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, etc.

Power is not about soldering the latest preset graphics chip, but giving it a “BRAIN” so that it can adopt to any number of technologies that are available now or in the near future.

Power is PROGRAMMABILITY not pre-soldered fixed technologies!
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Re: ipad vs android

Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:25 pm

you are saying bullshit ;) CPUs execute instructions... you can create a program which is run by the CPU ... you can not program the CPU itself. this is the same for both intel and ARM. intel is also proprietary but ARM licenses its architecture to many other companies. Also Android is open source while windows is not. If you know how you could download Android source code and change it in any way you want to do anything you want.... much more than what you can do with windows.
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