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[Demonax]

Google Nexus 10 review is out. Great specs. Poor, buggy performance and a lack of apps. Now there's a surprise...

Google's Nexus 10 tablet ($399/16GB, $499/32GB) is nearly perfect on paper, with the highest-resolution screen in the business, a fast processor, the very latest version of Android, and an elegant design. But it's not as good in practice. During testing, I ended up frustrated by bugs, slower-than-expected performance, and a lack of third-party apps which use the hardware well. Our Editors' Choice for large tablets is the fourth-generation Apple iPad...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411961,00.asp

[cyprusgrump]

Yes of course... Because the Pipo is a fake iPod - it has Apple printed on it and doesn't even work like an iPod...

I understand your analogy completely...

But, grumpy. You are the one who says that there's no difference between a Pipo and an iPad 4. Except for the price! Are you saying that I shouldn't get my beautiful wife a Pipo for Xmas now? And get her the iPad 4 that she asked for? You're confusing everyone now.

Twisting the truth like that does your argument no favours whatsoever - especially when the whole thread is available for everybody to read...

To save them the rouble - in which reply did I say that ' there's no difference between a Pipo and an iPad 4. Except for the price'...?

I'll save you the trouble - If you read through the thread you'll see that I didn't ever say that....

What I have said, consistently through this thread is that the Pipo does everything that I need at a fraction of the price of an iPad - read it and weep...

Getting desperate fanboy?

[cyprusgrump]

Google Nexus 10 review is out. Great specs. Poor, buggy performance and a lack of apps. Now there's a surprise...

Google's Nexus 10 tablet ($399/16GB, $499/32GB) is nearly perfect on paper, with the highest-resolution screen in the business, a fast processor, the very latest version of Android, and an elegant design. But it's not as good in practice. During testing, I ended up frustrated by bugs, slower-than-expected performance, and a lack of third-party apps which use the hardware well. Our Editors' Choice for large tablets is the fourth-generation Apple iPad...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411961,00.asp

OR...

Google Nexus 10 review is out. Great specs. Great price. Fantastic display Now there's a surprise...

Looking away from Android we come to the biggest question - how does it fare against the iPad? The reality is that there's not that much in it.

The iPad no longer boasts the highest resolution screen around and is left looking overpriced, while iOS 6 is starting to seem a bit old hat compared to Android 4.2.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/google-nexus-10-1109003/review#articleContent

[Demonax]

What I have said, consistently through this thread is that the Pipo does everything that I need at a fraction of the price of an iPad - read it and weep...

What I take issue with, grumpy old chap, is when you say the following:

‘Thirty-seven million Android tablets sold world-wide in 2012 - let that sink in for a moment will you....? Do you think they are sold on the back of a crappy UI and lack of apps...? Oh, the answer is 'no' by the way! The UI is great and there is no shortage of apps thanks... ’

Now, as the reviewer of the latest and greatest Android tablet said: The Nexus 10 is buggy, suffers from poor performance and has a lack of third-party apps that work well with it. And that is typical Android for you. Not the rosy-tinted crap people like grumpy and the Android fanboys post here post here. And you keep going on about the great specs of Android tablets and completely ignore the fact that without good software and integration, specs are meaningless.

Instead of accepting that you are paying less for an inferior experience - which would be the honest thing to do - you instead accuse Apple consumers of wasting their money on technologically over-hyped products. When the truth is that most reviewers and analysts regard the Apple tablets as the best on the market.

There's nothing wrong with buying Android products. But too many Android fanboys, like grumpy here, have such a bloody inferiority complex about it. And that tells you all you need to know...

[cyprusgrump]

What I have said, consistently through this thread is that the Pipo does everything that I need at a fraction of the price of an iPad - read it and weep...

What I take issue with, grumpy old chap, is when you say the following:

‘Thirty-seven million Android tablets sold world-wide in 2012 - let that sink in for a moment will you....? Do you think they are sold on the back of a crappy UI and lack of apps...? Oh, the answer is 'no' by the way! The UI is great and there is no shortage of apps thanks... ’

Now, as the reviewer of the latest and greatest Android tablet said: The Nexus 10 is buggy, suffers from poor performance and has a lack of third-party apps that work well with it. And that is typical Android for you. Not the rosy-tinted crap people like grumpy and the Android fanboys post here post here. And you keep going on about the great specs of Android tablets and completely ignore the fact that without good software and integration, specs are meaningless.

Instead of accepting that you are paying less for an inferior experience - which would be the honest thing to do - you instead accuse Apple consumers of wasting their money on technologically over-hyped products. When the truth is that most reviewers and analysts regard the Apple tablets as the best on the market.

There's nothing wrong with buying Android products. But too many Android fanboys, like grumpy here, have such a bloody inferiority complex about it. And that tells you all you need to know...

Perhaps you missed that last quote...?

Looking away from Android we come to the biggest question - how does it (the Nexus 10) fare against the iPad? The reality is that there's not that much in it.

The iPad no longer boasts the highest resolution screen around and is left looking overpriced, while iOS 6 is starting to seem a bit old hat compared to Android 4.2.

Oh dear, not all hardware reviewers are Apple fanboys...

Here is another...

Until recently, Apple pretty much had the full-size tablet market to itself. The early competitors to its iPad were pricey, hard to use and clunky.

But the market has changed in recent months, and Apple is starting to see some real competition. For the price of an iPad -- or less -- you can now find devices with easy-to-use interfaces, lightweight designs and features you won't find on Apple's gadget.

Google's new Nexus 10 fits in with this new generation of iPad competitors. Made by Samsung for Google, the Nexus 10's technical specifications match or better those of Apple's device in many ways.

It has a higher resolution screen than the iPad's vaunted Retina display. It's both lighter and slightly thinner than the latest iPad. And in my tests, its processor and graphics chip compare favourably with those in Apple's device.

Oh dear, oh dear...

[Demonax]

Google Nexus 10 review is out. Great specs. Great price. Fantastic display Now there's a surprise...

You need to be more objective grumpy and take in more than one review. In general reviews found the Nexus 10 had poor battery life, a poor camera, middle-of-the road display, sluggish performance and a lack of suitable apps. A good effort though. But still a way to go...

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/13 ... any-pixels

[cyprusgrump]

Google Nexus 10 review is out. Great specs. Great price. Fantastic display Now there's a surprise...

You need to be more objective grumpy and take in more than one review. In general reviews found the Nexus 10 had poor battery life, a poor camera, middle-of-the road display, sluggish performance and a lack of suitable apps. A good effort though. But still a way to go...

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/13 ... any-pixels

Well, I found two quite easily...

Here is another interesting one for somebody that has been pushing the iPad mini as the best thing since sliced bread...

Just for the record, in the 7-inch tablet space, it's the Nexus 7, not the iPad Mini, that currently reigns as the best small tablet.

From here...

Or this...

The Nexus 10's best physical attribute, however, is its face. The tablet boasts a striking 2560-x-1600-pixel, 10.1-in. display with 300ppi, making it the highest resolution screen on any tablet today -- the kind of resolution you'd typically see on a 30-in. computer monitor. The iPad, for comparison, has a resolution of 2048 x 1536 with 264ppi.

...from here...

...or this...

The Google Nexus 10 by Samsung. It’s the tablet that makes you want to look at it, touch it, hold it, but should you buy it?

We can’t help but be impressed by the incredible iPad bettering screen resolution, the tactility of its backing and the updates Google have made to Android’s tablet UI. Given the £319 price point for the 16GB version, it also costs £70 less than the 16GB iPad.

Google’s ecosystem is also stronger than ever before. Google music, Google movies and Google books make the Nexus 10 an easy to set up media hub. The microHDMI makes it a breeze to connect to a TV and the Android inside should be familiar to 69% of smartphone users.

...from here...

[Demonax]

Here is another interesting one for somebody that has been pushing the iPad mini as the best thing since sliced bread...

Actually I said a Retina display and a lower price would make the iPad Mini perfect. The iPad 4 is the best thing since sliced bread.

The Nexus 10's best physical attribute, however, is its face. The tablet boasts a striking 2560-x-1600-pixel, 10.1-in. display with 300ppi, making it the highest resolution screen on any tablet today -- the kind of resolution you'd typically see on a 30-in. computer monitor. The iPad, for comparison, has a resolution of 2048 x 1536 with 264ppi.

Shame it's such a let down in the real world. And has few apps that can use such a display.

Google’s ecosystem is also stronger than ever before.

That's why PC Magazine (hardly an Apple friendly site) says ‘Difficult to find good apps’ .

Overall, a fair assessment of the current Apple vs Android state of play is the following:

While the hardware is definitely a shot across Apple's bow, Google still needs to overcome a number of issues that have plagued Android tablets in general in order to pose a serious threat to the tablet market leader, which include a lack of tablet-optimized applications, user-friendliness and overall device performance..

http://www.zdnet.com/nexus-10-google-de ... 000006610/

[cyprusgrump]

Here is another interesting one for somebody that has been pushing the iPad mini as the best thing since sliced bread...

Actually I said a Retina display and a lower price would make the iPad Mini perfect. The iPad 4 is the best thing since sliced bread.

This is the problem with the damned internet....

Are you nuts? 139 pounds for that pile of crap? Crap display, crap build, crap speaker, crap software, crap apps, crap wi-fi, crap battery, crap camera, crap service and the touchscreen doesn't work.

You guys kill me. Just do yourself a favour. Save a bit more money and get a bloody iPad Mini. It costs 269 pounds which is nothing for such a great piece of kit.

Don't take my word for it you cheapskates. Read some reviews.

So much easier when you used to be able to mouth off in the pub and nobody could prove what you had said the next day...

[Demonax]

So much easier when you used to be able to mouth off in the pub and nobody could prove what you had said the next day...

Grumpy, try and understand. If money is not an issue I would recommend an iPad 4. If you want a 10 inch screen at a cheaper price you can get the lower specced iPad 2. If you don't want a top of the range iPad you can also get an iPad Mini. It's a great machine (and will give you reliability, great build quality, a decent screen and access to some great apps - all for £269 which is a pretty good deal).

It would be even better if it had a retina screen – but that's coming next iteration which would make it the perfect iPad if you like the smaller form! Is that so hard to understand? If I was on a budget and I didn't already have an iPad 3, I wouldn't hesitate to get one.

What I wouldn't do, under any circumstances, is get a bloody Pipo.