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[repulsewarrior]

...an example that crossed my mind, but not about rubbish: imagine several Constituencies, each making Halloumi in Cyprus, if the Maronites were to feed their goats the very best, and spent great efforts to specialise in cheese, and their cheese becomes recognised worldwide as the best, as a Greek i would be pissed off, (and i'd bet someone living in the Turkish Constituency would feel the same way), that "my" cheese needs improvement, although, in any case, the cheese as a Trade Mark, remains Cypriot.

...flag higher, not "Greek", not "Turkish", something more.

[Oceanside50]

...i would not be so quick to diss the Republic and its Judiciary. it represents a European Standard, and it is not in default, it is respected by many other Judicial systems, including, Canada, and the U.S.

of course we want to believe that there is room for improvement, the incidence of even one scandal is too many, but in truth, by many different standards, Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, that is, is no more or less corrupt than most.

...indeed, there is no Greek Constituency, the good works of the Turkish Constituency have none to compare, there is no superior, or to be represented with (as in Cypriot Constituencies) in equality. vp, in that sense is right, as GCs or TCs, who, or what, defends the Universal Principals where we perhaps as Persons, but most certainly as Individuals, stand in Unity? what is the Republic, if without other Persons it represents "Greeks"? why can't "Greeks" represent themselves, as Greeks and why should it matter for that matter, at a Federal Level, the Greekness or the Turkishness of an Individual? what of Freedom, a strength which comes from defending each other; what is wrong with Liberty within (and apart, as in another level of government, self-representation as Persons), so that this diversity is strengthened as well as sustained.

if we assume that a BBF exists, then there would be a Federal Government, and there will exist Cypriot Constituencies, each with a Judicial System as well. there is security enough in such a balance for the rights of people as Persons, and the rights of people as Individuals; a system like Canada comes to mind, which is both Bicommunal, Federal, and Bizonal.

example, garbage as a failing, institutionally; a Federal Government can define, and identify such instances, a standard that is acceptable to all Cypriots, as Cypriots, the service as Sanitation would be the concern of the Constituency (if not its communities, as communities sustaining themselves), it has a standard to meet or to excel; competition in this case is a natural component toward growth, so too the willingness for social-exchange, a much wider array of choices for Cypriots to improve themselves, in any case.

...it is not so easy to hide in a "blame game" pointing fingers where Cyprus does not exist, vp, you should not be worried, if as if i suggest, there are many flags flying in Cyprus, but one the Cypriot Flag, which always flies higher.

.i would not be so quick to diss the Republic and its Judiciary. it represents a European Standard, and it is not in default, it is respected by many other Judicial systems, including, Canada, and the U.S.

i would. How is the investigation of Papadopoulous' body being stolen going? How many RoC supreme court decisions have been ignored by cops, concerning immigrants and deported? was there ever an official RoC investigation into the killings of Tc in the 60's?...how long does it take for a common lawsuit to get itself through the system to conclusion? is it 3-4-5-or 6 years? why can't it be 2 months.and why be satisfied with being compatible to others in the region.etc etc..Shouldnt the bar be set higher for the RoC, knowing the situation its in?

My point dear RW , is that unfortunately the RoC has become a counterpart to the pseudo state instead of being an example to the Tc citizens of the RoC. If a system of strong institutions was encouraged then the other side would have to reciprocate as they have done in other instances. If the rule of law and blind justice including their respective institutions were held in the highest regard then the other side would reciprocate as they have done in many other instances. Upholding and respecting the rule of law and it being the rule and not the exception, would have changed attitudes throughout the years and made a solution possible.

[repulsewarrior]

...very well said. indeed it sickens me to see the President of Cyprus stuck with defending (read: willfully exploit) "Hellenic" values, rather than the Universal Principals that a man in his position is expected to uphold. There is nothing wrong with him defending the notions of a People who with their own way of life have inspired Civilizations over millennia, (and that he is a part of) but on this island as Cypriots (whether the overwhelming majority is of Greek origin or not), even as Greeks, and as Turks, we have much on recklessness to reflect upon, and this President should above all represent the Freedom without distinction or discrimination we cherish, on which the Liberty that as Persons, we enjoy. and yet he remains shackled so to speak, because a Greek Constituency does not exist to speak for itself; as Individuals we are no more, no less, Human beings, or not.

...frankly, as in waste management, a Republic would be effective in its power to move the Constituencies toward a better level of sustainability. what is needed is the sense that Cyprus comes first, the land, and the sea, the air, and its relics, we love, are paramount. what is our wealth being not just Greek, or Turkish, it is wrong to discount one, while favouring another: this is the Cypriot way (if you ask me).

[zan]

...an example that crossed my mind, but not about rubbish: imagine several Constituencies, each making Halloumi in Cyprus, if the Maronites were to feed their goats the very best, and spent great efforts to specialise in cheese, and their cheese becomes recognised worldwide as the best, as a Greek i would be pissed off, (and i'd bet someone living in the Turkish Constituency would feel the same way), that "my" cheese needs improvement, although, in any case, the cheese as a Trade Mark, remains Cypriot.

...flag higher, not "Greek", not "Turkish", something more.

Maybe your Hellim analogy will be the one that starts the war while the real politic goes on

Lets move on a few decades.........maybe devolution......like the unsatisfied scots......is it not better to come together in the future than fall apart

[kurupetos]

:lol:

...an example that crossed my mind, but not about rubbish: imagine several Constituencies, each making Halloumi in Cyprus, if the Maronites were to feed their goats the very best, and spent great efforts to specialise in cheese, and their cheese becomes recognised worldwide as the best, as a Greek i would be pissed off, (and i'd bet someone living in the Turkish Constituency would feel the same way), that "my" cheese needs improvement, although, in any case, the cheese as a Trade Mark, remains Cypriot.

...flag higher, not "Greek", not "Turkish", something more.

Maybe your Hellim analogy will be the one that starts the war while the real politic goes on

Lets move on a few decades.........maybe devolution......like the unsatisfied scots......is it not better to come together in the future than fall apart

We will be better off without you.

[Lordo]

hoşt bedrogullui kopek oglu kopecik seni. vromo shille thekse bodji.

[kurupetos]

hoşt bedrogullui kopek oglu kopecik seni. vromo shille thekse bodji.

No, it's too early... wait... we will be back...

[Lordo]

you will be back where you ass.

[kurupetos]

you will be back where you ass.

Re garaole, it's stopped raining, go back into your shell.

[Lordo]

hade bale irdes botha bale. where is charlui swine to usher you into your mandra. hade exo exo gavole.