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[Viewpoint]

...i am living in Canada, as my Avatar says, homeless having been displaced. having seen a bit of the world, i know my village was a great place to live. I know that the same intent existed then as it does now because although we have been torn apart, we communicate, exchange, and celebrate together the joy we shared; but, as i said before, what do i know, i come from a "mixed" village.

...dude, if you love Cyprus, you are Cypriot; you, are not a Cypriot because as you say, it does not exist, i, want to be a Cypriot (again), you see Cyprus as property, i see Cyprus as a living thing that i care for, you have your "belonging" in Turkey, i have mine in the world.

...vp, you choose to wait, as though someone will take care of you because you are "Turkish enough", i see th
e mounting disasters piling up on streets, and the beaches. you wish no one cared about the corruption that festers as a result, i speak with the humility i have, you without any Grace at all.

Do you realize that Cyprus changed forever in 1974? the Cyprus you remember is long gone...you can thank your eoka brothers and the enosis dream for this change. The Cyprus you remember and the one I live in in 2013 are two totally different things, you cannot bring the past back its not possible.

We cannot even agree on very basic principles how do you expect is to run a country together? unless you want to use your numerical advantage to dominate and manipulate me, the offer of unity you place on the table is not good enough as it takes away our rights and places them in the hands of people we do not trust, so the alternative is Turkification which is in essence back to our roots, now do you understand why what you offer has to be much much better?

...if i get the gist of your argument, you are saying, leave things the way they are. i am saying let us make something better; why not join me again, in the manifesto thingy, you or i have nothing better to do, we, won't change anything.

We have been there repulse why go backwards, lets start with do you accept bbf with political equality of the two states no armies freedom to move and settle in which ever state they wish.... do you agree with me?

Equality guaranteed through due process..do you agree?

"Due process" ? please explain.

[Viewpoint]

One Cyprus, One People, and within, two (or more) states. (is this not Bicommunal?)

no Army, would be nice, but i suspect a supra Army will exist, Britain, NATO, and Turkey, will insist on remaining, a Cypriot Army compels them to be inclusive, having common goals, allied as such.

...but Freedom is essential, as you say vp. Freedom of Movement, Expression, and Association, these are the Equalities we seek as Individuals. in Liberty, (as Persons) the Cypriot Constituencies should be equal as well. do you agree?

Now pitch this to the people in the south and see how much support you get especially "the Cypriot Constituencies should be equal as well".

[repulsewarrior]

...anyone willing to support my position?

not a very fair poll, but, for vp's benefit, how many will at least discuss it?

[Viewpoint]

...anyone willing to support my position?

not a very fair poll, but, for vp's benefit, how many will at least discuss it?

The silence should tell you everything.

[bill cobbett]

The news today in "trnc" is that the devastation has spread to 15 kms, with all animal life within 1 km of the spill dead.

People are again being warned to stay out of the water at the northern end of Famagusta Bay, in "northern cyprus"

The incompetence of "trnc" has led to by far the biggest environmental disaster in CY history.

[repulsewarrior]

...anyone willing to support my position?

not a very fair poll, but, for vp's benefit, how many will at least discuss it?

The silence should tell you everything.

...in a way, i am glad that this thread has not been derailed; thanks bill, once again.

[bill cobbett]

Reported in Baycrap... (you'll all know where to find the rubbish site)...

Someone living in the make-believe world of the Rubbish Regime of "trnc" by calling himself a "foreign minister", someone with the name Erk or Berk or something like that, has seen fit to criticise the reaction of the Republic to the biggest environmental disaster in CY history, seeking to deflect the blame for this disaster away from "trnc".

This Berk just can't accept that agencies of the Rubbish Regime of "trnc" were and are completely to blame for the disaster and his rubbish attempt to put the blame on the Republic is the most amateurish bit of squirming we've seen for years.

For the record Mr Berk, it is the Rubbish Regime of "trnc", a Regime of which you claim to be some kind of "minister", that ignored two previous warnings that things were not right in re-fuelling this plant.

So it was your Rubbish Regime of "trnc" that failed to get to grips with the re-fueling problems and is solely to blame.

It was "trnc" that asked for help from the Republic. A request that was answered positively and within the hour by the Republic.

It was "trnc" that withdrew the request for help, claiming that help was on the way from Turkey whilst all the while the oil and the environmental damage were spreading further and further, whilst the Republic was standing-by with immediate help.

... and it was the Republic and not the Turk to Turk policy of "trnc" that first got material help in the shape of hundreds of metres of oil-absorbing booms to help the clean-up.

You really are well-named Mr Berk.

[Lordo]

BETTER THAN SHISTOFIAS AND BABADOBILLOS RIGHT.

[Demonax]

Reported in Baycrap... (you'll all know where to find the rubbish site)...

Someone living in the make-believe world of the Rubbish Regime of "trnc" by calling himself a "foreign minister", someone with the name Erk or Berk or something like that, has seen fit to criticise the reaction of the Republic to the biggest environmental disaster in CY history, seeking to deflect the blame for this disaster away from "trnc".

What’s he complaining about? ‘They paid 9440 euros, including VAT, for 400 metres of oil absorbent boom and ... 4720 euro, including VAT, for another 200 metres’. Maybe the parasites wanted the booms for nothing?

Without our generous assistance they'd be covered in muck!

[bill cobbett]

Perhaps the Berk is unhappy about paying VAT.

Anyways...

Another Rubbish Moment, reported by adabasini...

The incompetent Rubbish Regime of "trnc" is again proving incapable of getting to grips with fly-tipping rubbish.

This impromptu dump up near the dam in Occupied Lefka...