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...sadly vp, after all these years, and with such a powerful benefactor, to see the damage done to Cyprus for the benefit of a chosen few "Turks", you have no credibility.

...still curious about the rubbish and how it is being dealt with.

Whcih chosen "Turks" are you referring to, we had a strike it ended now the clean is on, why are you so concerned about the TRNC, why dont you try cleaning up your own ailing economy?

[repulsewarrior]

...cleaning up the Cypriot economy as you say, is getting the Turkish Army, and its corrupt regime, out.

...ending the mythology foisted on Cypriots that they will never be anything other than "Greeks", or "Turks", is just as important.

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...cleaning up the Cypriot economy as you say, is getting the Turkish Army, and its corrupt regime, out.

...ending the mythology foisted on Cypriots that they will never be anything other than "Greeks", or "Turks", is just as important.

The Greeks in the south are far more fanatical than any Turk in the north, you really need to get your own house order but your job is very difficult becuase you have everything at your disposal yet you still reek of fanatisisim.

What has the mishandling of your economy got to do with the Turkish Army, you have Greece to thank for your troubles.

[repulsewarrior]

...i think if Cypriots focused on the beauty and wealth they have, they would be a balance of power between the rivalry that is Greece and Turkey. i think it is this rivalry which leaves us impotent as a People. it is the "Turks" who resist the changes which have evolved with the Modern Age, and it is the "Greeks"who have the same intention. you deny that the north and its regime is anything but perfect, thus even if you love Cyprus, you betray all those who are Tolerant, and who take themselves to be Human Beings, because you blindly trust a "motherland" that by their own acts demonstrate no respect for your Heritance, and seek this wealth through plunder.

...it has everything to do with the Turkish Army.

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...i think if Cypriots focused on the beauty and wealth they have, they would be a balance of power between the rivalry that is Greece and Turkey. i think it is this rivalry which leaves us impotent as a People. it is the "Turks" who resist the changes which have evolved with the Modern Age, and it is the "Greeks"who have the same intention. you deny that the north and its regime is anything but perfect, thus even if you love Cyprus, you betray all those who are Tolerant, and who take themselves to be Human Beings, because you blindly trust a "motherland" that by their own acts demonstrate no respect for your Heritance, and seek this wealth through plunder.

...it has everything to do with the Turkish Army.

It has more to do with the mistrust we feel for each other and the balance the Turkish army plays in keeping the peace, without them you would attack us and we you, we would be back to how it was pre 1974, you being the majority and recognized part of Cyprus need to win over and gain the trust of the TCs to make them see that union with GCs is better than continuing with Turkey, to date you have failed miserably to win over other human beings who you cliam are Cypriots.

[repulsewarrior]

...the "we" you are talking about has nothing to do with Cypriots, it has to do with the "Greeks" and "Turks" amongst them. unfortunately Turkey thrives on the animosity, it has everything to gain if the debate excludes the Cypriots. i grew up in a "mixed" village which survived the hostilities of '63. to this day, the bond between us as a village, a community of people with a love for their land, remains intact, even with the physical separation foisted on them.

the Turkish Army does not keep the peace. Cypriots keep the peace, Turkey only seeks to keep things as they are, (or was, as in before the Treaty of Lausanne), a population which is subject to them. the recognition that Cyprus, the Republic, has, was earned. unlike the regime in the north, it does not depend on Greece for everything, it acts responsibly for its Citizens, and independently. to date, the regime in the north has shown that it is incapable of managing itself. yet you claim to be a "State", your representatives cannot even manage to act responsibly toward the benefactor which as you say, have your best interests at heart. they are failures even as "Provincial" thinkers, they are as Erdogan says, parasites, or as Lordo interprets them, servant slaves.

if things continue the way they are, sooner or later, all Cypriots will resist the efforts placed on them by the Turkish deep state. Turkey, its Peoples, will rise up against the same elitists which are so far holding an agenda which seeks to define who is "Turkish" enough as worthy of their attention, at the expense of those outside their closed circle who are not "Turkish" enough. your blind obedience is folly. i applaud the workers who question the "authority" which has abused them, and who demonstrates an incapacity to respect even basic Universal Principals. they may not be against an independent state in the north, but they value their Freedom, and reject the unquestioning fielty you are demonstrating, and that you expect them to deliver to a "Turkish" enterprise.

...this has nothing to do with what GCs, as you call them, have done to convince so called TCs that their lives would be better with "them". it has to do with the motives of a few to be serviced by the rest of the population they have a control over.

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repulse you are not in touch with reality, you deny your self the sight to see what is in front of you, if you cannot see how to expect to understand why the GCs have been unsuccessful in winning over the TCs, the mixed villages of the past are history, the face of Cyprus has been changed forever.

Now what have the GCs who have the power of recognition done to win over the TCs, please answer the question and refrain from Utopian bullshit you tend to spout without giving any real answers, why would we be better off uniting than continue on the path with Turkey.

[repulsewarrior]

...dude, use your eyes. your streets are piled high in garbage, your so called government does not pay their bills, and although it is said by Turkey that they would sacrifice their membership with the EU for "you", Cypriots live under the occupation of a regime which has no identity except for their servile duty as "Turks" to a deep state.

...you may be quite content under the circumstances, however, i doubt that Turkish Cypriots are as willing to accept their marginalisation. even as a minority in a Unitary State, as it was before Turkey's betrayal in '74, you were better off. and frankly, i don't think you, personally, have the acumen to understand what a fantasy world you live in, always on the brink of a war where you will be the victim by proxy again, being so blindly devoted to a myth based on hate; even as a "Turk" you are second class to the "friends" of Erdogan, there to plunder what they can without impunity.

indeed, the "mixed" villages are gone for now, but as i've said, Cypriots, Turkish and Greek, do not support such Ignorance and Intolerance to this day.

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repulse so you are so obtuse, get past the crap and deal with the real question before you, excuses do not take the place of a straight answer. The south is not as attractive as you wish to think it is we can move to the south tomorrow but no one does only those who are wanted for crimes in the TRNC move south as they know you will protect them any enemy of the TRNC or Turkey is your friend by defualt, now please answer my question.

[repulsewarrior]

...wow, quite a stretch, now you are calling Cypriots who are living in the south criminals.