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[Kifeas]

Hi Alexios

Well, I am still awaiting to be dominated by some 'superpower' Greek Cypriot

Lana

PS Members of the Cyprus Forum need not apply LOL!

When it comes down to this ...kind of domination, we certainly make probably the only exception and instead we allow our selves to be dominated too, …acting in full compliance with the principle of ...equality.

[Alexios]

Hi Alexios

Well, I am still awaiting to be dominated by some 'superpower' Greek Cypriot

Lana

PS Members of the Cyprus Forum need not apply LOL!

When it comes down to this ...kind of domination, we certainly make probably the only exception and instead we allow our selves to be dominated too, …acting in full compliance with the principle of ...equality.

well,to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..))

[RAFAELLA]

Dear Rafaella
You say 'Brits are not famous for their intelligence', what leads you to that conclusion? Do you have any supporting evidence? For a small population they have been a major power and contributed much in terms of inventions etc.
Lana

You can say it's my personal estimation from meeting Brits.
Evidence? I can say the trap they've put themselves in by purchasing properties at the occupied area. Need a better one?

[RAFAELLA]

Dont you know that the most intelligent people on earth are the Greek Cypriots???Sooner or later,the Brits,the Americans,the Turks,the UN,the EU,and every other fascist who dares doubt our natural superiority will be obliged to accept us as the superpower in the meditterranean (after we throw the turks into the sea that is..)))

The one and only Gc who dares to speak about our natural superiority!
One day we will be a superpower with no doubt...one day.

[Kifeas]

Dont you know that the most intelligent people on earth are the Greek Cypriots???Sooner or later,the Brits,the Americans,the Turks,the UN,the EU,and every other fascist who dares doubt our natural superiority will be obliged to accept us as the superpower in the meditterranean (after we throw the turks into the sea that is..)))

The one and only Gc who dares to speak about our natural superiority!
One day we will be a superpower with no doubt...one day.

Rafaella,
In my opinion, there are certain thinks in life that people should refrain from saying, even within the context of merely joking. One such think is to suggest to oneself or to others that s/he is naturally superior due to his race, cultural background or ethnicity. In my opinion, such behavior exerts and reveals luck of culture and arrogance of the worst kind and constitutes hubris. If it is done repetitively, it also reveals the existence of a suppressed inferiority complex, which has been transformed and then expressed as a superiority complex. I say this because I noticed that all too often you express yourself in such ways and many of your “jokes” revolve around such issues.

I am not suggesting that you should not feel proud and sure of your self, of your country and your cultural background. What I suggest is to refrain from advertising it in such a moronic way because it makes you look stupid, although in reality you are quite an intelligent and educated person.

[Anglo]

You are deluding yourself. How do you think they will be punished? There are no enforcable legal mechanisms and the only political solution likely is the Annan Plan which does not punish current users of dispossessed properties.

Get real my friend, get real, ...unless of course you are one of those benefiting from this illegal exploitation of GC properties in the occupied north, in which case I can understand and explain such a blatant denial on your behalf to face and more importantly ...admit the realities.

The Annan plan, as it was drafted and then rejected in its last version, will never be the solution of the Cyprus problem. If the GCs rejected it then, there is no way they can accept it, or anything close to it, now or any time in the future. The GCs nullified it on the 24/04/2004, the EU nullified it later with the counter declaration, and as of October the 3rd 2005, Turkey has nullified it too, ...through the signing its accession-negotiating framework.

Who will punish those who illegally sell and buy GC properties in the north? Turkey my friend, ...Turkey! ...If it ever wants to see the door of the EU, ...even from a distance!

Well, I do not see Turkey selling the TC's down the river in the near future, even if some in the political elite were prepared to do it in principle in return for EU membership. There are too many forces in Turkey who would stand in the way of that. Who knows what will happen in the next 10 - 15 years though? The thing to remember is that the Cyprus issue is a red herring - it is not the real obstacle to Turkey's accession, merely a convenient vehicle for the anti-Turkey groups in the EU. The promised referendums in France and Austria on Turkish memebership will be the real blocks to entry.

[Kifeas]

Anglo,
Are you claiming that for Turkey to concede to a logical, just and viable solution, that will also respect Cypriot people’s human rights, it equates to a mere selling of the TCs down the river? Is this what you just said?

[Anglo]

Dear Rafaella
You say 'Brits are not famous for their intelligence', what leads you to that conclusion? Do you have any supporting evidence? For a small population they have been a major power and contributed much in terms of inventions etc.
Lana

You can say it's my personal estimation from meeting Brits.
Evidence? I can say the trap they've put themselves in by purchasing properties at the occupied area. Need a better one?

Rafaella, for someone with a hugely misguided impression of their own intelligence, here is a saying for you to ponder: You can take the peasant out of the village but you cannot take the village out of the peasant.

[Anglo]

Anglo,
Are you claiming that for Turkey to concede to a logical, just and viable solution, that will also respect Cypriot people’s human rights, it equates to a mere selling of the TCs down the river? Is this what you just said?

Logical, just and viable in whose eyes? The TCs want a bizonal federation with safeguards for their perceived rights. The GCs want one-man-one vote and a 100% GC return to the north. Two different versions of just and viable

[Kifeas]

Anglo,
Are you claiming that for Turkey to concede to a logical, just and viable solution, that will also respect Cypriot people’s human rights, it equates to a mere selling of the TCs down the river? Is this what you just said?

Logical, just and viable in whose eyes? The TCs want a bizonal federation with safeguards for their perceived rights. The GCs want one-man-one vote and a 100% GC return to the north. Two different versions of just and viable

Two things and I am finished with this story, as I sense that I am talking with a mere opportunist.

1. This is not what the GC side is essentially trying for.
2. The mere political settlement of a political dispute, namely the type of government, regime and the degree of power sharing and representation of the two communities and /or states in it, have absolutely nothing to do with the respect of the individual's property and other fundamental human rights.

Of course you and many other TCs and /or Turkey want a solution that will also step over those human rights, because you want to legitimize the theft of individual's properties, covering them under the veil of a political settlement. As a typical thieve, you would naturally want to be free to continue to act so and hope that you will also get away with it. My mission, as one of the many victims of yours and other's theft, is to do whatever is feasibly possible to stop you and also not to allow you to ever legitimize your theft, because this will only come about on my own very expense.