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[Lordo]

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/features/aca ... e/20121028


the eu spent 200000 euros in reseach and came up with a conclusion that the problem in cyprus is that the two parties do not agree the root cause of the cyprus problem. the europeans and the two leaderships need our help in clarifying the root cause of the problem.

any ideas.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing new, waste of money imo could have told them for free that neither side really want to unite unless they can force their will 100% on each other.

[Me Ed]

Only in the EU!

It reminds me of this:

Replace "the answer to life the universe and everything" to "the answer to the Cyprus problem".

[Viewpoint]

Maybe Ecevit was right, the Cyprus problem was solved in 1974.

[Lordo]

the question has to be answered. unless we get to the root of the problem and agree with it then there will be no answer. these people spent so much money and got to understand the problem as is. surely we can help them a little of the problem as was. come now boys you can do better than that.

so the question remains. what is the root of the cyprus problem.

here is my contribution.

the root of the problem was enosis. violence started in 55. parliament voted unanimously in 67 to enosise with greece and that vote has never been repealed to this day. the gc scociety cannot even discus this matter openly on the media. surely the answer is right infornt of us for those who wish to see it. unfortunately we cannot help the politically blind on this matter. here were are with an independent state for 7 years and our parliament votes to join with greece. is it not obvious.

as to what ecevit said certainly he may well turn out to be correct.

[Kikapu]

the question has to be answered. unless we get to the root of the problem and agree with it then there will be no answer. these people spent so much money and got to understand the problem as is. surely we can help them a little of the problem as was. come now boys you can do better than that.

so the question remains. what is the root of the cyprus problem.

here is my contribution.

the root of the problem was enosis. violence started in 55. parliament voted unanimously in 67 to enosise with greece and that vote has never been repealed to this day. the gc scociety cannot even discus this matter openly on the media. surely the answer is right infornt of us for those who wish to see it. unfortunately we cannot help the politically blind on this matter. here were are with an independent state for 7 years and our parliament votes to join with greece. is it not obvious.

as to what ecevit said certainly he may well turn out to be correct.

Lets just say for the sake of argument that Enosis was the sole cause of Cyprus problems starting in 1955, then how do you explain why Turkey is still occupying Cyprus when Cyprus no longer wants to have Enosis with Greece, but instead, did Enosis with the EU, the same institution Turkey says also wants to have Enosis with?

Clearly, just plain Enosis with Greece cannot be the sole reason of Cyprus's problems, can it?

[Viewpoint]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

[Kikapu]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Even you PM Erdogan does not agree with you on "equal partners" philosophy.

I already gave you a perfect 2 states federation based on political equality which you rejected, just because it was based on True Democracy and did not allow cessation of either state from the Cyprus Union, so stop with your crocodile tears.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told President Abdullah Gül that “double-headed rule” would not benefit Turkey. The president had instructed Ankara’s governor to tolerate those who wanted to celebrate Republic Day independently despite the government ban.

“We have not ruled this country under double-headed governance.This country will go nowhere with double-headed rule.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/confus ... sCatID=338

[Viewpoint]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Even you PM Erdogan does not agree with you on "equal partners" philosophy.

I already gave you a perfect 2 states federation based on political equality which you rejected, just because it was based on True Democracy and did not allow cessation of either state from the Cyprus Union, so stop with your crocodile tears.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told President Abdullah Gül that “double-headed rule” would not benefit Turkey. The president had instructed Ankara’s governor to tolerate those who wanted to celebrate Republic Day independently despite the government ban.

“We have not ruled this country under double-headed governance.This country will go nowhere with double-headed rule.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/confus ... sCatID=338

Again you are unable to comprehend thet fact that BBF with political equality of the 2 states is not a two headed country, we would only have one representation the federal level to lead the country as a whole, your twist is just proganda aimed at scar mongering the GCs who obviously do not want to share equally as was the case with your failed and dangerous plan to gift the whole island to the GCs, if thats "true democracy" you can stick it where the sun dont shine we will never gift away our country to revenge seeking GCs.

[Kikapu]

Have you heard of cause and effect, cause=enosis effect=division, so just saying you no longer want enosis is not enough to repair the divided island, you need to show you are repentant and have changed accepting TCs as equal partners in a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Even you PM Erdogan does not agree with you on "equal partners" philosophy.

I already gave you a perfect 2 states federation based on political equality which you rejected, just because it was based on True Democracy and did not allow cessation of either state from the Cyprus Union, so stop with your crocodile tears.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told President Abdullah Gül that “double-headed rule” would not benefit Turkey. The president had instructed Ankara’s governor to tolerate those who wanted to celebrate Republic Day independently despite the government ban.

“We have not ruled this country under double-headed governance.This country will go nowhere with double-headed rule.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/confus ... sCatID=338

Again you are unable to comprehend thet fact that BBF with political equality of the 2 states is not a two headed country, we would only have one representation the federal level to lead the country as a whole, your twist is just proganda aimed at scar mongering the GCs who obviously do not want to share equally as was the case with your failed and dangerous plan to gift the whole island to the GCs, if thats "true democracy" you can stick it where the sun dont shine we will never gift away our country to revenge seeking GCs.

I comprehend perfectly on what your PM Erdogan is saying. He is saying, No way Jose on "Equal Partnership" for Turkey in what you are asking for Cyprus. Equal Partnership in what you are asking for is something totally different than political equality of the 2 states which what the USA has in their True Federation, which you reject for all the reasons I have given you before. Hardly surprising for someone who says "I'm a partitionist at Heart"!

You have zero credibility to convince anyone otherwise.